2nd Gen JCW Most liked posts in thread: New Mini Owner 2009 MINI JCW With A Few Questions

Exactly ^^^

 

If you want power I'd start with the basics first. Remove cats, clean valves, replace timing setup, and throw some Pistons in there... Make sure it runs right first.

 

A stock R56 is lighter, has better brakes, gets better mileage and has a more powerful engine.

They are not the ticking time bomb the series one guys and internet forums would have you believe. People don't complain on the internet that their car is trouble free. My 2010 R55 has been trouble free.

 

Yeah if you are ever cold it will warm you up. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

Ok - had to work today so wasn't on the thread.. but seems like lots of good discussion.

First Guapish_Fliver - saw the gauge mod you posted.. Very nice, simple and clean. If the bracket you made doesn't hold or if you want a black one, let me know I can send you some flat plastic we can make a bracket with. (Use this stuff all the time on the RZR's we mod). Or if you want some other material, have a laser cutter we can use.

Ok - I will start with sometimes I like a challenge (Usually means pain)... don't always take them.. but here is my analysis.

Clearly it appears if you are going for higher HP the R53's are the straight tuner bet. Folks have this recipe and probably the best way to go from a reliable HP perspective (odd to say that considering its a Dodge engine... but the R56 is Peugeot...)

Regarding the R56 - If tuned appears it creates problems and not sure the upside is there to take the pain..

I'm assuming this engine is not specific just to mini's since they outsourced it. Does anyone know what the N engines cross reference to from Peugeot or is it Mini specific?

Engine swaps in these cars are non existent..

Clearly I need to get out and drive some. Drove a 2016 JWC to see what it felt like. Have memories of my brothers R53 (bone stock).. don't remember the year.

hmmm.

 

The N engines were a joint project between Peugeot and BMW.

I'm outnumbered in my support of the series two MINi because of all the series one fanboys here, not because it is an inferior car.

 

I have had ZERO issues with my 2009 R56 JCW..... I change my 100% synthetic earl every 5,000 miles with a OEM earl filter..... or sooner if I'm in a good mood...

I have the ability of being able to read the earl level on my dipstick and keep the earl at the high mark....

Oh..... And I like the looks of the R56....

Corse.... I have not "tinkered" with adding HP mods only suspension mods to make it faster...

 

I haven't done any suspension mods, it already goes around corners faster than I can drive.:biggrin5:

 

DneprDave

Agreed the force is strong with the Series 1 and there are some very strong opinions. While I appreciate them, I also appreciate you comments/views.

All - So let's flip this a little to add color.

Common repetitive themes (what am I missing):

Series 1 (Are there multiple engine model variants/designations)
1) Dodge Supercharged engine
2) Little lower build/finish quality
3) Heavier
4) More visceral
5) Stock engine is reliable and it appears to take tuning well
6) Weak brakes

Series 2 (Two engine variants.. any more)
1) Lighter
2) Interior Build quality and for some the exterior looks
3) Better suspension
4) Better Brakes
5) Potentially consumes oil
6) Current feeling is tuning them is problematic. There are those who do. (I need to research this more to see others results)

Questions:
1) What are the downsides/week points of tuning the Series 1 for 300+ HP.
2) What are the actual weak points in the series 2 and their fix if one already determined? i.e. we know Oil usage, Valve buildup, etc.
- Are their tuners who have designed a fix? What is the weak point?
3) Which takes mild mods (bolt on etc) better?

(Stuff I will search on but figured I would ask to see if it even exist)

1) Is there a link, spreadsheet etc that has all the body, engine etc nomenclature?
2) Also since the engines come from other OEM's does anyone have a cross reference chart for parts to questions like:
- Wow that mini part is expensive, but this Dodge part is cheap?
- Man just blew my turbo, what else will fit?
- Will cool JWC (or other parts) fit my mini
3) Tracking of bolting tuning part on and results

 

See above

 

In a lot of cases the n14 factory tune needed to be "updated" at the dealer to get the car to run right without stumbling. Imo, the cars are tuned on the ragged edge of being too lean from the factory. Pretty sure my car was one with a bs factory tune because it stumbled/detonated all the time and never ran right even after a fresh motor until I found the right tuner. I don't think you can go wrong with rmw or Jzw for a tune, they will give you a programmer so you can add or modify tunes if you decide to make changes down the line. JZW is 400 dollars cheaper... I think on a stock motor with no mods they are seeing 250-280 bhp. The r53 will never make the power of an r56. Not once not never.

Id say the biggest enemy or weak point of these motors is detonation. The oem Pistons seem to be pretty fragile. Also, the valve guides are made of some terribly unreliable chintsy low friction brass. JMTC claims to use "long life" guides constructed from a different material of some sort.
JZW gave me a high octane ethanol mix tune to protect against detonation and I haven't felt it yet, so honestly I feel safer now than I did with the factory tune...

 

Um you know Shane has a 750 whp R53 right?

Also TVS and Rotex R53 MINI's make 400 hp with a soft tune.

 

Wha? 750? Is there a mod list or vid somewhere?

 

Yea would like to see that.. prefer video of 750hp in this car. Yes i know putting that down on the street would be hard.... thinking smoking tires at whatever speed.

Now we are talking... by that I mean a good debate.... who in your opinion builds the best r53 and who builds the best r56?

Love to see them side by side..

wjosh45

 

Look up Eva Bomber on FB

 

FYI you can do this with an R53 stock block after some machine shop work and big $$$.

Try this on an R56 or F56...... nope :lol::lol::lol:



Because M/A is not the center of the MINI world.

Neither is NAM, MF, LXM or M|u

Shane

These are from when it was at about 650 hp.



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Yes it's breathing fire out of the hood. :devil::devil::devil:

 

You can do all that and everybody will still think your MINI is cute and girly.