Just as a reference; I fiited the Way race inserts and bushes to my R50 engine mounts which did the job for rally but the dash etc rattles like crazy. If I had false teeth they would rattle out too!
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RallyMini370 Well-Known Member
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NM torque bushing
I have the NM torque bushing installed on my 09 JCW, it greatly improves in shifting, clutch uptake, and less rubber band effect of the drive trainduring acceleration and deceleration.
No noticeable increased NVH. It is a BIG BANG for the buck! Get IT... -
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Way......
How do the NM inserts compare (besides price) to the one piece BSH unit? I was leaning towards the street version of the BSH but was concerned about NVH with the small end not having some give since it's designed without a bushing?
Duh.....
Looks like the BSH unit for the R56 does have a bushing at the small end. Got confused with the BSH unit for the earlier MINI's that doesn't have the bushing.
OK, still same question. How do the two compare performance wise? -
Way Motor Works New Member
The NM bushing will be alot less NVH. Performance wise I think the NM performs great. It's not going to be as solid as the BSH mount, but that's the trade off you have to give to not have NVH.
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WOW....
Clicking the keyboard early this morning eh Way?
Thanks for the quick return.
So NM alot less NVH than even the street version of the BSH? The track version must really be something else?
I'll wait for a few more member responses and then you can expect an order from me.
Oh, by the way, I think it's very clever the way you throw out open discussion on your MINI performance parts, getting non-bias feedback from the members. -
Way Motor Works New Member
Honestly I've never driven an R56 with the Race BSH mount. I just know how hard the street version was.
I'm not trying to be clever. I'm trying to get customers to put their opinions in writing so my other customers can learn more about a product and it will be "Real" info. I do always try to give honest advise, but some customers will always be weary of what I say because I am trying to sell something.
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Naw..... I meant clever in a good, not a sneaky way.
Clever that you are getting a dialogue going. -
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What secures the insert? Tolerance fit? Or is it sandwiched when you install it?
I'm just curious if there should be any concern of them falling out, especially with the torque arm being so low and prone to bottoming out on lowered cars.
I've been meaning to get a set, but I've always been curious about this. -
Way Motor Works New Member
Yes the sandwich fit holds it in place perfect.
I have yet to see anyone bottom out a MINI at the torque arm. But Rally your car would def have the best chance -
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Way, thanks for the thread on the N/M torque arm bushing, just placed my order.
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Rixter Well-Known Member
Is this an easy DIY mod?
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So are these for R53's & R56's? I know Powerflex already made these for the R53, how are they different or better? And I belive the BSH mounts only have a bushing on the big end, they are solid on the small end.
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If you go to the NM Engineering site, they have a download with instructions.
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Installed the NM Engine Torque Arm Insert I got from WMW. Real easy install following the instructions included with the kit. From the time I backed the MINI up on my ramp (made from 6"x6" wood posts cut with a slope on one end) to being done took all of 20 minutes. Everything went together with no issues.
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Nothing noticeable on the way home.
But when I was on the Dragon last week I did hear a couple of time the MAP sensor / air box smacking my Upper strut bar which was a little disconcerting. I built my bar purposely close to the engine because I wanted the cross bar as straight as possible for rigidity, it actually fits in the small valley behind the sensor and the front of the air filter box.
Before I added the inserts I could rock the engine on the mounts fairly easily and after the inserts were in I couldn't get the same rocking, so there is an improvement from that standpoint. I couldn't tell if there was an increase of NVH, I've got more than enough NVH with my run flat tires now thank you. -
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