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I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that all the workers that lose their jobs over this will have a much different opinion on the coolness of this scam.

 

I can't stand the government and its regulations.... Don't get me started. But, I guess I don't see anything cool about this at all.

 

+1. VW wasn't trying to be cool or preserve oil reserves. They just wanted to sell cars, and had no problem lying to buyers.

 

If the oil guys told the epa what to do we wouldn't be looking at 50mpg fleet average mandates in the coming few years.

 

I'm guessing being of the age that you can remember the brown skies & smog that used to be California's air before pollution controls I understand Jon. Being a Midwest boy I've only experienced air like that when I worked at the steel mill 43 years ago. I didn't much like breathing that carp either.

It's pretty easy for anyone who hasn't experienced that kind of pollution to make jokes about what VW has done. I'm guilty of that too.

I do think it is an ingenious cheat. That being said, they have screwed everyone who drives a VW diesel or gas. I can hear my GTI depreciating as I type this & is even crying big drops of coolant.

 

Volkswagen chief executive Martin Winterkorn resigned.

 

He has been seen riding his golden parachute into retirement. :wink:

 

They did and it didn't work out so good.:cryin:

 

BMW Statement

BMW Group statement concerning the current discussion of diesel engines

updated Friday, September 25, 2015.


BMW Group is committed to observing the legal requirements in each country and fulfilling all local testing requirements.

In other words, our exhaust treatment systems are active whether rolling on the test bench or driving on the road.

Clear, binding specifications and processes are in place through all phases of development at the BMW Group in order to avoid wrongdoing.

Two studies carried out by the ICCT (International Council on Clean Transportation) have confirmed that the BMW X5 and 13 other BMW vehicles tested comply with the legal requirements concerning NOx emissions. No discrepancies were found in the X5 between laboratory-test and field-test NOx emissions.

The German magazine Auto Bild has published a clarification of their article released yesterday (September 24) concerning the emissions of a BMW X3 stating: “No evidence of emission manipulation by BMW…. The values mentioned in the document were only generated in a single, one hour-long road test. Auto BILD has no access to the details of this test trail, which might explain the discrepancies to the test cycle NEDC.†(NEDC stands for New European Driving Cycle)

BMW Group is willing to discuss our testing procedures with the relevant authorities and to make our vehicles available for testing at any time.

The importance of diesel engines in achieving CO2 targets

Policymakers worldwide, and in particular in the European Union, are setting tough standards for CO2 and other emissions. The 2020 targets in Europe can only be fulfilled through extensive use of modern diesel engines and further electrification.

The progress achieved so far in CO2 reduction in Europe is largely due to the use of diesel technology. Meeting future requirements will not be feasible without diesel drive trains, since a diesel engine emits roughly 15 to 20 per cent less CO2 on average than a comparable petrol engine.

At the BMW Group, we have invested a great deal in recent years in refining and optimizing diesel technology.

At BMW, diesel vehicles accounted for 38% of vehicles sold worldwide last year: Europe 80%; Germany 73%; US 6%. This represents approx. 20,000 vehicles in the US in 2014.

The Euro 6 emissions standard, which took effect on 1 September 2015 and is binding for all new vehicle registrations, improves both environmental and consumer protection.

To bridge the gap between test results and real-life fuel consumption and emissions, the European Union is working on a new test cycle (WLTP) and an emissions test for real driving situations, known as “real driving emissions†or RDE. We support the swift introduction of the new regulations to create clarity for consumers and the industry as quickly as possible.

 

Pre-emptive strike!

 

Holy crap, take that V-Dub!