OK, as the OP, let's agree that there are differing opinions as to the location of the cooler. So far, this thread has provied me with plenty of ideas, and unfortunately has verified my findings that there is NO perfect kit available today.
Let's not argue cooler locations, I know where mine is going, and if someone selects a different location, they will have a different set of trade-offs to consider.
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Oh yeah, I should also mention, those black rubber air guides under the MINI where your cooler backs up to, they are long gone on my car from an off at the track.
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
OK......just got am email from Moss MINI and you can order just the oil cooler adapter plate from them for $82.50.
Here is the part number and description.........
772-158 ADAPTER PLATE, OIL COOLER, S
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Ok, that is not a bad deal, thanks.
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
I will post a review of it as soon as I get it.
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Bimmer Lite New Member
Just some info: I e-mailed Chris at Sneed Speed Shop and asked if his oil cooler would cause problems in cold weather without a thermostat. He said it wouldn't since the system retains the stock heat exchanger.
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
To bad......as that is one main reason to get an aftermarket cooler, replace the potentially problematic OEM oil cooler/exchanger.
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I think an important point is to remove the OEM exchanger, and I thought that was the consensus as well.
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It's possible that I misinterpreted this comment in an e-mail:
"The oil cooler will work in the winter because it keeps the stock MINI oil thermostat. I have driven I’m in weather down to about 0F with no problems even cold start outside in the morning."
It could very well be my mistake - let me know what you think.
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There is no stock MINI oil t-stat. I think the original response from Sneed was just stated incorrectly.
The bottom line is that if you live in a colder climate, you may need an oil t-stat to ensure proper minimum oil temps. A pressure and temp gauge would serve to determine if you are within proper min temp levels for the odd frigid morning. -
I'm in the process of building my own oil cooler, some of you may have heard me mention this on NAM. Thanks to this thread I found out about Moss Mini's adapter plate and ordered it. It was about $100 shipped. I'll take pictures of it after it arrives to show the quality of this piece. I'm really not sure what to expect myself :lol:
I have also purchased an FC RX7 Oil cooler on ebay. This was one of the details I was leaving out before. Rotary engines are MUCH more sensitive to both water and oil temps and their oil is also put through much more stress. The OEM RX7 cooler is ~ 23"x5"x2.5" quite a heathy sized core, it has a built in thermostat, and can be found pretty cheap. I bought mine for $50 shipped, here is a link to another I was looking at so you can check them out, keep in mind its a ebay link an if it is after July 09' this link probably wont work Ebay
I plan to somehow redo the bracketry and bolt to the under side of the aluminum bumper, in front of the A/C condenser. Then I'll just have to add lines. -
That is a very interesting approach, I think I need to go out to the garage and take a few measurements. :^)
Do you know what the temp is on the thermostat? From what I have read 220F might be the right open point, not sure exactly though. Anyway, while I like the thermostat being integrated into another component like this is, it would seem better to have it integrated in the adapter plate, I think that would be optimal. Is it possible for the thermostat to get hot enough to open if it is so remote/so far removed from the heat source? -
Just checking it out, its a 149*F. Click Here 220 would not be an optimal temp for an oil thermostat. 220 is about as high as you want the oil to get, if you can keep it that low. Most say 180 as a good running temp. At 150, the valve is just starting to open at 5mm/min. While it may be a nice feature to have a thermo at the plate...it would be more expensive and complicated.
It is surely possible for the thermo to get hot enough as remote as it is...it works for OEM's, on cars where oil cooler operation is critical. Should be fine for this application. I'm sure its not going to be as easy as just bolting it on, but I think in the end it will be the best option out there at a much lower price. -
Thanks for the link.
I thought I had read that 225F was the sweet spot for synthethic oil temp and that 180 was way too cool, as it is too thick so you lose power and proper lubrication. Again, this is second hand as I have not researched this yet.
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