I always had good luck with the OEM cork gaskets - I'd glue it on the valve cover, then put a good coat of grease on the other side, so I could remove it easily to adjust the valves - never had one leak like that.
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could be coming from a couple different places... could be the rocker cover gasket... could be the Tappet covers on the backside of the engine...or could be coming from the shift selector O-ring or the transmission...or...well it could be coming from any number of places because the wind will get in there and whip that oil backwards...i would turn the car over and let it run...check the oil pressure gauge to see if you are getting changes in pressure
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But... Many Mini engines don't have tappet covers. In fact, it you have a non-Cooper S A-series big block "1300" engine, you have a solid wall block and there are no tappet covers. They are only on the smaller engines (850, 997, 998, 1071, 1100) and the true 1275 S.
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Valve cover gasket .......
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If it stops smoking, by all means add more oil.
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Wow. I had the same problem on my Mini. I say "had" because it has magically disappeared. But I don't trust it is really fixed - just hiding is my guess.
After getting back from the Mini Fun run to Arkansas last month, I found a nice collection of oil drippings on the garage floor. That really surprised me as it hadn't been leaking before that. But that was 1,300 miles of driving, including about 10 hours on the way home. I drove the car up on some ramps and tried to find the source. There was a mist of oil everywhere near the rear of the engine and on the exhaust and rod-change pieces too. It seemed to be coming from the differential where the left side drive shaft comes out. But, as I said, there was oil splattered everywhere in that area and it was difficult to tell with any certainty. I got some Dawn dish soap and sprayed a mixture of it all over the back of the engine and differential to try to clean up the mess.
My first thought was to look at the shift rod seal, but that seemed to be dry(-ish). It could be the axle seal, but it could also be anything else in that General area based upon the oil coating, including the mechanical fuel pump seal. I am also wondering about excessive crank pressure due to the extended high speed running. I've got a breather on the timing chain cover and a breather on the flywheel cover and they are both plumbed to the carb in what appears to be correct the OEM way. So that looks to be fully sorted.
Now the weird part is that since I cleaned the engine not a single drop of oil has fallen on the garage floor. So wherever the black gold was coming from before, it is not visible now.
I drove a good 25 minutes on the highway each way to/from the local Cars & Coffee a couple of weeks ago. The oil got nice and warm, but there no leaks that I can see. Certainly nothing dripping to the ground. Strange...
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I'm guessing it's the rocker cover gasket... Look and see if it has a burnt space in the center on the firewall side. We've experienced this with the race car, created from a minor exhaust leak coming from center pipe on the header.
Another thought... We also Yamabond the gasket to the cover and put a nice coating of grease on the head side to make for easy removal. No real leaks with that method, maybe just a slow seepage.... No issues though. -
I ordered a new valve cover gasket and plan to attach it exactly like that, Minidave, yes. I did NOT order a rocker cover gasket, as I'm not sure where that port/plate is located... hmmm.
I was under the car at the COMO event last weekend and it looks like it actually may be coming from the fuel pump. Rigt now the mechanical fuel pump is bolted to the block but is not being used - the diaphragm failed and started leaking fuel, and rather than replace it (again) I just hoked up an electrical fuel pump.
I have a fuel pump blanking plate and fresh gaskets on order from Seven, but can someone tell me where the rocker cover(s) are located so I can eyeball them when I take the carbs off over the weekend?
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I think you mean tappet cover, it is on the side of the block, on the intake/exhaust side of the engine. The intake and exhaust manifold have to come off to access it.
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Yep, I was surprised to see my engine did not have tappet covers - my 62 1100 had them.....
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Rocker cover - Valve cover..... Semantics. The cover on top of the engine that covers the rockers.
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No he's rght, Pre-A blocks are like that too - mine is.
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Ok. Learned something new today.
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On friday I removed the fuel pump and replaced it with a proper blanking plate. Had to trim down the bolts - they were too long to fit all the way in without the thickness of the pump and its spacer.
It looked like the original owner had cracked the plastic spacer between the pump and the block and glued it back together, and that may have been the source of the leak. The gaskets were totally oil-soaked, so there was definitely leakage from that area. the good news is that after a 30 mile drive or so I don't see any fresh oil on the back of the engine. The bad news is that even with this area plugged (I assume) I'm still dripping from someplace (else). Gah! :frown2:
I'll swap the rocker cover gasket next, but I'm pretty sure it's not that... The quest continues....