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  1. travellering

    travellering New Member

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    I'm sure there's folks who can answer this better than I, but a classic mini is never going to feel like you're holding up traffic. It's a bouncy,buzzy,darty,clattery, and thoroughly entertaining drive at normal street speeds. The power delivery of a classic mini is entirely different to a MINI. First gear is excellent for lighting the little tires, but in factory form it's a long throw to second, so you've lost momentum through each gear change. You don't want to risk slamming the gears, since they are spinning in the same oil as the engine. A stripped piece of gear tooth would get to circulate through the oil pump, the cylinder head, and the piston wiped rings if the oil filter doesn't catch it in time.
    However, it feels alive and fun the whole time. There's only a single layer firewall between you and the engine, so you hear and feel everything that's happening under the bonnet. The sides of the car are the same single wall thickness, so you are also aware of your surroundings much more than in a modern ride. You become more aware, for better and worse of what's going on around you. On a fun blast through twisty mountain roads it's exhilarating. On a long freeway run it's exhausting.
    You'll find excuses to take it out for a play every chance you get.

    Around town, a mini is really at home, but if you have to make a 90 degree turn to enter a highway, you'll find yourself waiting for a longer gap in traffic.
     
  2. Jason Montague

    Jason Montague New Member
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    :cornut: The person that comes to mind to answer your questions who has recent experience with 'Minis' and souping up the original engines/parts and knows what he's talking about is FireBro17. Send him a PM and ask him to come up on this forum to answer. He'll do it. He's one of the good guys.:Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
  3. MCS02

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    Yea I would like to know too.
     
  4. Rawhyde

    Rawhyde Active Member

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    Thanks for the reply. I'm still trying to form a "performance profile" of a classic in my mind. In stock or close to stock trim, I'm guessing that it's about like an 80's economy car in acceleration. I'm thinking Cavalier, Civic, etc; NOT diesel Chevette, or Ford Escort.

    Back in 1978 when inflation, interest rates, and unemployment was running about 20%, my daddy bought a Ford Fiesta. He got it for $3995, and the dealer delivered it to the house while my mama and I were running errands. That was such a fun car. It may not be as great as I remember, but it'd nearly set its 12" Michelins on fire from a hard launch. It was SO much more fun to drive than the '78 Gutlass that mama drove. I learned to drive in it when I was well below driving age, and even took my driving test in it. Sadly, he traded it on a new S-10 truck when they came out. In 84, when I went off to college, we got another one as a father/son project. Unfortunately, it was too far gone for me to keep running after my daddy was diagnosed with aggressive lung cancer.

    The Fiesta was an economy car, but it was a lot more fun to drive than a Rabbit, Chevette, or anything else of it's day. I'm kinda hoping that a classic MINI is a lot like the old original MkI Fiesta. The pitiful thing is, Ford had the best economy car on the market and replaced it with the Escort, which was the biggest hoax ever put off onto the American public.
     
  5. travellering

    travellering New Member

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    In stock trim, a 998 engined mini runs about on a par with a gas engine non-gti rabbit. The 1275 adds a substantial amount more torque, and will probably compare to your memories of the Fiesta.
    In my 998's, both stock internals but upgraded with stage one kits (air filter, alloy intake manifold, long centre-branch exhaust manifold and more free-flowing exhausts, plus a slightly thinner-richer needle in the carb), I can buzz around town with traffic. I'd lose a stoplight grand Prix to a moving truck if they were trying, but I can take a right angle turn at 30 without going out of my lane. There is little to no body roll, so direction changes take place as fast as the tires will let you.
    Performance as always is limited by how fast you want to spend, but in almost any mini save an 850 cc engined station wagon, if granny is shaking her fist at you, it's for driving like a hooligan, not for holding her up.
     
  6. Firebro17

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    Rawhyde, I sent you a message. I would first suggest that you consider reading the forums on Mini Mania's website, for starters. As is so with this great website, there are lots'a very knowledgable Classic owners there who are very willing to share their bits of info with anyone who asks.... By compiling from several sources, I'm sure you'll find the answers you are seeking.

    Best of luck in your search and feel free to contact me anytime. :beer