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Roundabouts are fun and easy to use. I don't see what the problem is other than 98% of other drivers are retarded.

 

I also like that in any new highway project plan the only add about 8-10 cars to trick people when they look at the design. Look how much better traffic will be.:lol:

 

Jeff.... We could leave donut crumbs along the way to lead you to us if that helps....

 

When they built that type of interchange at Sawmill & 270 I drove through there twice a day. Traffic moved & moved well. I think the same will be the case for this latest improvement project.

 

Agree on the idea of 315 extending as a freeway and that it would be a shame to get rid of such a nice road. The problem is that road is so busy that it isn't fun anymore. At least extend the highway portion to Powell Rd and make Powell Rd 2 lanes wider and then watch as Powell and Worthington and some random township develop the hell out of it is it needs another lane.

Another factor are the current crop of city planners are a bunch of old guys who discount the newer theories on traffic flow so they fight alternative traffic plans. The reason for this is Ohio's jacked up local government structure that allows for all these townships that exist only to give people a way to avoid school taxes and to keep old farts employed as trustees and support staff. Don't worry I could rant on this topic for days, but I will spare everybody the reading. Summary 90% of Ohio's problems come from outdated municipal structure.

 

And this is why I cannot find planning jobs. It really is an old guys club. Not to take away from the other points given. But you are correct; they keep designing our streets and freeways the same way. There are better designs but they want to do what they know how to do no matter how wrong or poorly designed it is.

 

Yup and we live right around the corner from this mess...gonna be fun getting to work/babysitter/anywhere, since we pretty much traverse this way everyday...

 

Woot!

More SPUI ramps.

Single-point urban interchange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

It is a real pain now. Might be worse for a time, but if I live long enough it might be a who lot better.

 

I love new development projects. I think this would be a cool idea for a major Columbus highway intersection... I actually presented it to some architects and developers; they looked at me like I was from a different planet.

Granted, could you imagine all the confused people driving on one of these? You can barely go through a 4 way country road roundabout without getting stopped by those who have no clue what they are doing.

Anyway you look at it, something had to be done in this area. Coming from OSU campus to get onto 23 North is a nightmare... I end up getting on 23 South and turning around.

 

I'm in the same boat as you are Jason

 

Day-ummmmmmmm...my future participations on donut days will be verrrry limited, for sure, if work on I-270 East is involved in the process. On the otherhand, maybe I'll be losing some extra lbs.

 

There are other roads to use Jeff. Maps are good, there is so much info to be learned.

 

I don't get what the tunnel is suppose to achieve. It's only for north bound traffic and it's past the big headache of the interchange. Just seems like a waist of money.

 

I always thought a [more or less] straight line approach makes for the shortest trip. The T.H. off SR 161 is nearly 90 miles away from me one way, and is in a more or less straight line. Yeah, maps are good, but I don't have the rest of my life to waste, trying to find that particular T.H. on unfamiliar as well as roundabout roads. :frown2:

 

Nick, it looks like they are separating the traffic flowing onto 270 from the traffic flowing onto 315.

Say you are on 270 and want to get on 315 you go under the bridge... notice that ramp with the bridge is flowing onto 270 whereas the ramp parallel to it looks to be going to 315. They did this because people for some reason cannot figure out a clover leaf. This also helps ease the 23 South traffic that backs up that bridge... hopefully signage will also help.

Just my City Planner mind at work there.

FYI: did you know Ohio was the first state to introduce the cloverleaf on and off ramps? They are a dying breed now.

 

The problem is three major roads coming together in one place. What they should do is make one exit from 270 to 315 and 23, then separate onramps from 315 to 23 and to 270, which in some convoluted way is what they are doing. I would also like to see a ramp from 23 to 71 so those people never have to merge with 270 as well.

The whole north half of 270 is a mess because all the suburbs did a shitty job of planning for the past 25 years. They all grew too fast and now the highways can't expand because they are lined with buildings full of people who can't get home because the roads were planned for 1/4 of the traffic they actually have now.

 

Precisely! This is just about all we talk about in planning school. How to plan with the mistakes already made... it's like a game. Sometimes the only fix is to go backwards aka: knockdown buildings or wipe the slate clean and start new and sometimes that won't fix the problem; ultimately due to location.