The first gen car’s getrag and the second gen car’s getrag have a different bell housing bolt circle. The getrag used in the PT Cruiser is a five speed, and the R-50 and the SRT four uses a Chrysler designed and built five speed transmissions, I think they call it New Process. The Cruiser and the SRT-4 engines are the same engines accept the intake manifold, intercooler and electronics.
I'd guess the second gen trans would turn in the opposite direction. I gear forward & 6 reverses. :shocked:
Just count the lay shafts in the transmission. With an even number, the output shaft turns in a reverse direction to the engine, odd, it turns the same direction as the engine. Dave
I just figured if it was flipped the other way it would be a 6 reverse & a 1 forward. Not that it matters much.
so it looks like we are just going to do the mini s 6 speed swap for now. the shop is also going to make a template for future use.
FWIW there's also a version of TSW's 6-speed swap article here in the M/A Library. Fixing the Weak Link - Getrag 6-Speed Swap for MINI Cooper Use whichever you prefer but there may have been very minor tweaks made on its way into the Library (I can't remember) and then after it was loaded so I would personally stick to this version just in case. TSW was bought by Way Motor Works and Way is available if you have questions.
thank you. this should help the shop with the swap the only part im worried about is going from the auto to the 6 speed
You might have to do a software reflash; talk to Way, if I remember correctly he was offering that at the Dragon. See here post #9.
Arent the motor mounts different between the manual and auto cars as well ? I know on the S models even the intake system is a little different, but have no idea on the standard.
someone is going to get a call tomorrow to see what is involved. she just doesnt want to put in another auto for it to fail
so it looks like what is going to happen for right now is that the auto is just going to be replaced with another auto so she can drive itr while we build another motor and plan a swap for it. i told her i would match her dollar for dollar on what she puts into it as a little incentive. my shop also said they would cut a really good deal as it would be great publicity for them and hopefully open them up to minis in the southern bay area. so far for what we have planned it looks like getting the ecu to work will be the hardest part cause everything else can be modified and fabricated.
Yeah, getting the hardware in there will be the "easy" part. The electronics will be a nightmare though, and honestly if they have no experience with BMW/MINI, they wont be able to accomplish it. IMO Replace the tranny (like you planned) then sell the "Just-a" and get an S model if you are wanting to stick with MINIs. Like i said earlier, i looove weird swaps, but you are going to end up wasting soooo much money, money that could make you a darn solid R53...