Engine Drivetrain 1st Gen Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: Pulley Legality Questions

  1. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Helix & RMW Powered
    Lifetime Supporter

    May 4, 2009
    25,021
    13,497
    113
    Burbs of Philly, PA
    Ratings:
    +14,644 / 10 / -4
    Blah blah blah, just put the pulley on and enjoy.
     
  2. CHKMINI

    CHKMINI Club Coordinator
    Lifetime Supporter

    Sep 1, 2009
    9,244
    3,802
    113
    Ratings:
    +3,863 / 0 / -1
    Is California a state or another freaking country???
     
  3. Naughty_Dog

    Naughty_Dog New Member

    Jul 20, 2013
    53
    24
    0
    San Francisco, CA
    Ratings:
    +24 / 0 / -0
    I plan on, with a fiery passion! >:)
     
  4. mini_racer

    mini_racer Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2009
    1,046
    57
    48
    Engr Manager
    Austin, TX
    Ratings:
    +57 / 0 / -0
    Step 1. Grow a pair
    Step 2. Install pulley
    Step 3. Go have fun
     
  5. ScottinBend

    ScottinBend Space Cowboy
    Supporting Member

    May 4, 2009
    8,767
    2,547
    113
    Bend, OR USA
    Ratings:
    +2,678 / 1 / -0
    From what I understand because the JCW uses a smaller pulley, CARB isn't a concern for a pulley swap.
     
  6. Firebro17

    Firebro17 Dazed, but not Confused
    Lifetime Supporter

    Sep 18, 2010
    7,820
    3,327
    113
    Retired CAL FIRE Battalion Chief
    The Great Irrigated Desert of Central CA
    Ratings:
    +3,328 / 0 / -0
    OK, so one quick call later and I believe I can address the original question with relative affirmation. A smog technician typically is only looking at modifications such as headers, intakes and any extra hoses and/or other "foriegn" lines running around the engine that don't appear to be OEM for the particular vehicle they are inspecting. That said, in the instance of an intake for example, some are CARB legal and some are not. They will be stickered appropriately so as to reaffirm their legality to the technician. K&N intakes are typically OK as a CARB legal part. In my case, I originally added a DDM Works intake, but opted to go with a gutted JCW intake so as to avoid the question... Now I'm not saying I believe DDM to not be CARB legal, I don't remember for sure. I'm saying I wanted to avoid the question when inspection time came around, so I opted for an OEM part. Additionally, when I added my catch can, I was careful to add it inline wihout disrupting the OEM flow, so to speak. The MSD coil pack I installed came with a CARB sticker which I affixed to the inner firewall. My exhaust is a JCW so I have no issues there either.

    Pulleys are not on the radar and it's likely that this mod will never be detected. As was stated above, I too believe the JCW has a reduction pulley as a stock alteration. If you're looking at adding a header, I'd suggest contacting RMW or another reputable tuner to get their take on that particular modification.

    I say go for the pulley change, and any others you can put together, and enjoy!
     

    Attached Files:

  7. Naughty_Dog

    Naughty_Dog New Member

    Jul 20, 2013
    53
    24
    0
    San Francisco, CA
    Ratings:
    +24 / 0 / -0
    You are a sir and a gentleman. This news makes me very excited, thanks so much for your help! :Thumbsup:

    /endthread
     
  8. Firebro17

    Firebro17 Dazed, but not Confused
    Lifetime Supporter

    Sep 18, 2010
    7,820
    3,327
    113
    Retired CAL FIRE Battalion Chief
    The Great Irrigated Desert of Central CA
    Ratings:
    +3,328 / 0 / -0
    Without becoming political, I'll just say that California is a state of being..... And being as I just said that, I believe I'll drink. They haven't kept me from doing that yet! :beer
     
  9. Naughty_Dog

    Naughty_Dog New Member

    Jul 20, 2013
    53
    24
    0
    San Francisco, CA
    Ratings:
    +24 / 0 / -0
    Well seeing that we have so many different responses, is there an actual law forbidding upgrade pulleys in CA? :confused5: Just to set it in stone... It is always up to the tech who inspects it, though...

    Anyway, I just ordered my own 16% WMW pulley, so I guess I'll at least be taking some high-heat range spray paint to that sucker...

    Man I really dislike the visual inspection aspect of all this, it really should just be up to the actual emissions your car produces.... :mad:
     
  10. CHKMINI

    CHKMINI Club Coordinator
    Lifetime Supporter

    Sep 1, 2009
    9,244
    3,802
    113
    Ratings:
    +3,863 / 0 / -1
    That's what you get for living in that state.....it's been like that for what? 30 years? :)
     
  11. kazlot

    kazlot It's the journey.....
    Lifetime Supporter

    Apr 9, 2010
    13
    2
    0
    S.F. Bay Area
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
    Yes it is up to the tech to catch the pulley. Some do some don't.

    The way the law reads any modification with out a CARB exception number is an automatic fail even if the emissions are reduced.

    The Bay Area is pretty laid back compared to the Los Angles area.
    The story is that if you're stopped they'll look for non-stock parts so that they can issue fix-it tickets.

    Hope this helps...
     
  12. kazlot

    kazlot It's the journey.....
    Lifetime Supporter

    Apr 9, 2010
    13
    2
    0
    S.F. Bay Area
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0
    The intercooler is a perfect example.
    It's an automatic fail according to the law.

    Some techs will pass you, just luck of the draw I guess.
    Like Dave.O says, no neon signs.....enjoy the pulley!

    Hope this helps...
     
  13. Dave.0

    Dave.0 Helix & RMW Powered
    Lifetime Supporter

    May 4, 2009
    25,021
    13,497
    113
    Burbs of Philly, PA
    Ratings:
    +14,644 / 10 / -4
    PULLEY! PULLEY! PULLEY!
    Add the pulley because speeding is against the law also and we all do it everyday.
     
  14. jiminni

    jiminni Well-Known Member

    May 7, 2009
    1,592
    262
    83
    Ca.
    Ratings:
    +262 / 0 / -0
    Dont worry about installing stuff, check my garage, and my car passes every time :cornut:
     
  15. Naughty_Dog

    Naughty_Dog New Member

    Jul 20, 2013
    53
    24
    0
    San Francisco, CA
    Ratings:
    +24 / 0 / -0
    If that's true, that'd be the best news all day! :drool
     
  16. KittyMini

    KittyMini Club Coordinator

    Jun 24, 2009
    3,271
    1,183
    0
    Ratings:
    +1,183 / 0 / -0
    Hopefully some Cali's will chime in hear, but I know a lot of people out there that have reduction pulley's on their MINIs.
     
  17. Norm03s

    Norm03s New Member

    May 5, 2009
    4,936
    534
    0
    Working at being retired.
    Somewhere in Sykesville. Md.
    Ratings:
    +534 / 0 / -0
    Words of wisdom from AEN, "what me worry"
     
  18. Firebro17

    Firebro17 Dazed, but not Confused
    Lifetime Supporter

    Sep 18, 2010
    7,820
    3,327
    113
    Retired CAL FIRE Battalion Chief
    The Great Irrigated Desert of Central CA
    Ratings:
    +3,328 / 0 / -0
    I have a 16% reduction pulley on my '05 R53. While I've never heard of this, I'm sure it could be so. Anything's possible out here. I've never had an issue with passing smog and have never had a smog technician ask a question regarding pulleys. Any mods made where a red flag may arise have been done so as to not draw any extra attention.

    I will ask the question to a couple of reputable sources and drop back to let you know what I find out.
     
  19. Naughty_Dog

    Naughty_Dog New Member

    Jul 20, 2013
    53
    24
    0
    San Francisco, CA
    Ratings:
    +24 / 0 / -0
    Great, thanks so much!
     
  20. Apok

    Apok New Member

    Jun 15, 2013
    776
    357
    0
    Sadly, finance. The most boring job in the world.
    Columbus, Ohio
    Ratings:
    +357 / 0 / -0
    From what I understand it is a foreign country. Seemed nice when I visited many years ago.