You don't recommend 225/50/15 for track use? I see lots of people running this, but I also see the benefit of 225/45.
- Marc
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Bimmer Lite New Member
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I can attest to the 225-45-16 A048 setup....phenomenal...even for the street :devil:
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If I might suggest to split up among summer and all season? Makes a diff for those north of the mason dixon line (at least for this lazy mini maniac!)
Also while I just put on a set and not fully tested I am liking the set of 215/35/18 Nitto NeoGen's -
I keep hearing good things on the NeoGen's, but have yet to try them out. At this time their 280 UTQG treadwear rating puts them in a category where people are looking for a high-wear summer-only tire.
The way I sorted the tires for stock size and diameters are:
Summer tires
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
Nice work!
But I would like to see the summer tires and the track tires separated out. -
dwatkins New Member
Great list. I am sure I will coming back to this thread for reference.
What about the Kuhmo XS or RE-11 225/50/16? (if they would fit) I know the size wouldn't help with gearing, but it gives you wider versions of two of grassroots motorsports' top rated tires. -
--->ScottinBend: the track tires are only listed in the "Ryan's Choice" section. At that point it should be easy to know which tires work for you.
--->dwatkins: I'm sure you could fit a 225/50-16 as long as you're keeping your ride height and stock, however they are about a half inch taller than stock so your gearing would be hosed in auto-x, not to mention the squishy sidewalls would numb the steering. Opt for the 215/45-16 Kumho XS or 225/45-16 Toyo R1R instead! -
I've seen fitment on 225/50/16 be about 50/50 - lots of people rub in the rear, on the interior. There is a metal piece there that causes issues.
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I agree. Most tires over 24.5" diameter have rubbing problems on the MINI, whether its R53 or R56. If the car is lowered the problem is only more prominent. I ran 225/40-18 R-compys on MM2urbo and had to "flatten" the rear fender inner sheetmetal seam [the one PGT is referring to] as well as practically remove the fender liners and wheel arches to get the tires to clear through the suspension travel. It was more work than the tire size was worth, IMO.
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225/35/18 is a great size for the MINI, but only about two tires to choose from (both good but pricey).
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^^I listed the two I know of [the Michelin PS2 and Sumitomo HTR+]. Do you know of any others worth owning?
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Toyo T1R and Goodyear F1 Asymmetric (MUCH better than the Sumitomo's and Toyo...slightly better than PS2's). I think Yoko makes the Parada Spec-2 as well in that size....a VERY competent budget tire
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member
I had heard and read that it was kinda on the bottom of the summer high perf. tire list.:confused5: -
This is good reference, everyones opinions on tires is a bit different. My first set of GDS3 in 215 45 17 stuck like glue, the current set feel like a set of Sears Oreo cookie discs. I may look at the Dirreza's next, but am not sure if I want something stickier.
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215/40 17 Falken RT615's.....very sticky and got about 15k on the current set. Just a little smaller in diameter so it throws off the speedo about 2 mph though. Very happy with them although never really made it out to the track or autocross so Im probably going to switch to something with a little more treadwear and sacrifice a little grip :frown5:
Steve
BTW: Ryephile thanks alot bro for putting this all together....much appreciated by all of us! -
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The Falken 615's have great steering feel but lack ultimate grip, whereas the Goodyear GS-D3's have painfully squishy steering feel but actually good grip considering their 280 UTQG. I do agree the Parada Spec2's are a good budget tire, but since the Dunlop Star Spec Z1 is close enough in price I don't see the point in getting the Parada's anymore. My experience with the Toyo T1R is similar to the Falken 615; good feel but low overall grip. I haven't driven the Goodyear Asymmetric because it tends to be in larger than normal [for MINI] sizes.
Thanks everyone for the feedback and the personal experience! -
let's be clear that F1 Asymmetric are NOT F1 GSD3. Asymmetric use carbon fiber reinforced sidewalls and have phenomenal performance compared to the squishy GSD3.
225/35/18 F1 Asymmetric:
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