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  1. minimark

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    #3 minimark, Jun 28, 2011
    Maybe it's cooperation as much as anything. One would think that to publish a manual as thorough as the Bentley manuals have been; that the major source for the information probably comes straight from the manufacturers themselves......

    Without that cooperation wouldn't Bentley have to fund a study and tear down and then reassemble the whole thing? No way they could find all the values and info like that.
     
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    #11 Metalman, Jun 28, 2011
    Ah, vous les Américains sont tous pareils. Si vous n'aviez pas gagné la guerre, nous ne serions pas tous droit de parole français maintenant ....:D







    Ah, you Americans are all alike. If you have not won the war, we would not be all right to speak French now
     
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    #24 Metalman, Jun 29, 2011
    Bentley manuals have always been considered top notch....:Thumbsup:
     
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    #33 Metalman, Jul 8, 2011
    Yeah, well just remember this act of friendship the next time we play you at hockey, for the gold...:D
     
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    #41 Metalman, Aug 25, 2011
    Bentley Goodness........
    Over 25 pages of P-codes defined.....:D

    And detailed electrical wiring diagrams....:D

    And Torque settings all over the place....:D
     
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    #55 Metalman, Aug 30, 2011
    Well that is true.... So, you need the repair manual more than me (don't forget that's only, what.... two oil changes since the warranty ran out)? :eek6::eek6::eek6:.....:D
     
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    #62 CHKMINI, Aug 30, 2011
    Jim, speaking of plans ...what's yours for getting to Mid -Ohio to join us for the races?
     
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    #2 OldBlue, Jun 28, 2011
    Boy, I agree. I have purchased one of their manuals for every one of the cars I have owned, and like you have been waiting not-so-patiently for the manual for my MINI.

    I don't know how true this is, but I thought I read somewhere that MINI won't let anyone write a manual for the R56? Not sure, but does a publishing company need the permission of the manufacturer to legally do this? If so, then shame on MINI.
     
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    #4 Metalman, Jun 28, 2011
    Why would any manufacturer cooperate with Bentley? Wouldn't this be giving up a lucrative revenue stream for repair? It's not just the initial sale, it's everything that comes after as well.
    Would BMW treat Bentley any different than they would for repair manuals for any of the BMW models?
    As far as cooperation..... MINI doesn't even like calenders of MINI's being published... So if that's the issue, don't hold your breath...
     
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    #5 minimark, Jun 28, 2011
    Maybe Bentley pays a fee to the manufacturer?

    There just about has to be some sort of cooperation, look at all the pics and logos not to mention the amount of time and money it would cost Bentley to gather all that info on their own.....

    Maybe a contractual "arrangement " would be a better description...
     
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    #6 Johngo, Jun 28, 2011
    I am sitting looking at the Bentley manual I got for my BMW 330ci.

    Anyone interested in buying it? Covers '95 through '05 E46 models.

    Obviously they have SOME cooperation with BMW... :D
     
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    #7 Metalman, Jun 28, 2011
    Yeah.... Maybe they do pay a fee... Certainly justified... There is a ton of work that is needed, picture wise and documentation wise.

    Of course, that could also be generated by camping out at some of our vendors locations generating similar info with payment agreements as well.

    Just have a feeling "coming soon" will never happen.
     
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    #8 Nitrominis, Jun 28, 2011
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    This may simply be helpful

    MINI Cooper (R55, R56, R57)
    2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011:
    Service Manual
    Cooper, Cooper S, John Cooper Works (JCW)
    including Clubman, Convertible
    by Bentley Publishers
    Hardcover
    ISBN-13: 978-0-8376-1671-1



    The arrangement(s) specifically between BMW/MINI and Bentley are proprietary.


    BENTLEY does in fact do their own tear downs and photography.


    There is no delay in the release of ISBN-13: 978-0-8376-1671-1 simply no release date published yet.

    Most of what I posted can be acquired by simply contacting or calling Contact Us (800) 423-4595


    On a personal note:
    To help a little having sold Bently Publication over the past 30+ years and personally know this information that may be helpful and also get advance release dates for requested new releases.
    I am aware having received my own personal letter from the attorney representing BMW in 2003 using the spelling MINI in a product, know there must be permission given to use certain BMW/MINI logos and company information.
     
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    #9 minimark, Jun 28, 2011
    Understand your feelings. Does seem like by the fifth model year there would be a manual from them on the shelf unless there is something going on....

    One of the first things I bought for my R53 was a Bentley manual and it's paid for itself so many times. Even have one for my E46!
     
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    #10 Crashton, Jun 28, 2011
    I think the problem is the French to English translation of the engine section. That & the fact that all Mfr's seem to want to make it hard for others to work on their cars. They'd love dealer only...
     
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    #12 Steve, Jun 28, 2011
    I just checked again at the Bentley site and it seems to me there may have been a change.
    It's been a while but I think that's where the "Coming Soon" used to be...or am I missing something?
     
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    #13 Metalman, Jun 28, 2011
    Nope....
    It's changed since yesterday. I checked before I posted my rant. Also, knowing they monitor M/A forum, I was hoping we had a lurking audience. Still haven't received an email notification.... but don't need one now.

    Will order mine now...:D
     
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    #14 minimark, Jun 28, 2011
    Wonder if Bentley will state in the manual that: Using one quart of oil every 1000 miles is normal operation.... LOL

    How you say crazy in French? ;)
     
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    #15 Metalman, Jun 28, 2011
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    Ordered....
    Woot... Free Shipping.....
    Shipping soon..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...:D
     
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    #16 Grgramps, Jun 28, 2011
    The next question is, "How long before Amazon offers it at a substantial discount"?
     
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