Suspension Brakes 1st Gen Most liked posts in thread: Raceland coilovers for the R50

  1. Nathan

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    Correct, most everyone that has posted has had experience with ultra low cost parts. There is a reason the cost is so low.

    Some reviews from other sites on other cars.

    The Official Raceland Primo Coilover Review - NASIOC

    NASIOC - View Single Post - Raceland coilovers

    Raceland Coilover Review - Mazdaspeed Forums

    There is tons more out there.

    In short, you want looks, get them. You want safe predictable handling. Don't.
     
  2. ColinGreene

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    Have you ever noticed how some people never have the money to do it right, but can always find the money to do it twice ?
     
  3. Nathan

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    We expected something different?

    User says hey, I'm going to use garbage because I can't afford to do it right yet I want the look.

    We say, it's garbage, don't waste your time or money. We've been down this road.

    User says, yeah, but the garbage I am looking to use might be the same brand of garbage ya'll have used, however, you didn't use on exactly the same modelk I am, so you are wrong you people with experience.

    We laugh knowingly.

    User never comes back, become a member of a site that pats him on the back and validates his decision is perfect. Mostly because they used the garbage too and won't now admit a mistake was made.

    No wonder the world is falling apart.
     
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    Damn. You can lead a horse to water...
     
  5. TheModFather

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    And wheel spacers...

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  6. myles2go

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    The collective knowledge of this forum is trying to steer you away from these coilovers. No one here may have first hand experience with them, but there are a lot of experience people here and they've seen cheap components and the problems they cause.

    You haven't mentioned what you want to achieve from you car, better handling, lowered ride, etc.. The group here will help you get where you want to go and you'll save some money learning from their experience.
     
  7. RallyMini370

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    Just as an example of you get what your pay for....Here's the Reiger rear at $1000 each. Lucky for me the sponsor paid.

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  8. Dave.0

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    Sorry to the OP but most people on MA already know what real coil overs cost and perform like and you wont come near quality for $369.00. Heck a good set of Swift Springs for coil over cost a little more than that.

    We all know that none of us would buy a set of coil overs for under $1700.00 just like we will not jump in a shark tank full of great whites just to get in the water for the team.

    Good luck on taking one for the team, but the team is telling you not too.
     
  9. ScottinBend

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    There's a reason no one has tried them............they are cheap and cheap is not what you want holding your car to the road.
     
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    #38 fishmonger, Jun 25, 2015
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    Some visuals for a setup that's similar to that - not really cheap, but clearly the scariest and worst suspension I have ever had on a car. FSDs, Alta? springs (maybe K-Sport, hard to tell with the rust), and H-sport camber plates.

    Front left - shock tower mount destroyed following endless harsh bottoming out on completely normal roads. Failed completely 2 weeks ago on a bigger bump. That torn piece used to be one solid piece of steel on the bottom of the H-sport camber plates.

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    And the right rear... the strong corrosion that had the cheap spring steel fail completely years ago, but corrosion also saved the day by fusing the spring back together.

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    First owner sold the car to me like that, probably when he realized he had to spend a ton of cash on new suspension. This suspension is brutally stiff, FSD's keep hitting bump stops on the slightest of harsh bumps in the front, so much that I frequently pulled over to check if the shock towers are still connected to the car. The rear rattled like a big tire iron bouncing around in there, even on bumps you can't even feel in a normal car. 1/4" seams of simple pavement changes would make the car rattle like it was going to fall apart.

    That's FSD and lowering springs after 35K miles - if I am lucky I can sell the FSDs for a fraction of new, but the camber plates are history, the springs are history. I would not recommend to run these shocks with springs shorter than stock, The tops of the shocks are polished bare metal from the frequent bump stop contacts.
     
  11. 00Mini

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    I chuckle every time I read this because it is so spot on true !! :Thumbsup:
     
  12. ColinGreene

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    just say no.
     
  13. TheModFather

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    If you are using strictly as a DD, and only lowering an inch, I would change out the shocks with either Bilstien on Koni's, and just use Swift Spec-R springs... Solid proven setup.
     
  14. MCS02

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    Are you talking about that rust bucket?:D
     
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    I'm through trying. No sense beating a dead horse!
     
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    The bit I liked was "taking one for the team" for junk we know is junk and we would not use. I'd take one for the team....wait I took one for the team with a misfire!
     
  17. Dave.0

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    Any coil over worth anything cost at least $1700.00 and even then they can be a crapshoot.

    The only thing you should buy is a piggy bank and save some money.
     
  18. ZippyNH

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    For the $$, just get koni yellows and lowering springs...
    First time you hit a pothole and have a cheap coilover fail...you will be out more than the extra $$ on the cheap coilover... Sure no "I got coilovers" bragging rights, but the car will be FAR more capable.
    Guess the forkin the road in infront of you...
    Do you choose actual performance or "rice", (aka an OEM-MINUS)....

    It is your $$, please do not take the fact we are steering you away from the product you have your heart set on as us not being friendly....it more the collective minds of MA suggesting you back up and reevaluate the choice....
    Many folks have gone down the cheap parts road...the sale of the car is usually the next step as one suddenly finds they don't like their car anymore, and the owner moves on, wondering WHY they ever loved their car....
    Maybe you secretly hope that selling the car with coilovers will be easier..... Hint...keep the old parts.
     
  19. TheModFather

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    Not always! 3 1/2 years later mine is back and better than ever!
     
  20. Ryephile

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    Reiger's forte' is off-road, just so everyone's on the same page.

    If you're making a road-course track car, then your aim-high brand is Penske built by an experienced race-car damper specialist like Anze.



    In any case, looks like the OP made up his mind before even asking the question. I suppose everyone has to learn the hard way.