Suspension Brakes 1st Gen Most liked posts in thread: Raceland coilovers for the R50

  1. myles2go

    myles2go Active Member

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    You don't have money to get anything better, OK, we've been there and are accepting of that. The question you have to ask is do you have money to redo it? The crowd here is trying to tell you to not throw your money away. it is usually cheaper to buy some quality components the first time. Don't throw $400 away on some cheap coil overs only to find out they are junk. That money will buy a set of swift springs for use with your struts or seed money to start saving for coil overs. None of us have a stake in the game, so we're not profiting from any decision you make, just friendly information to guide you away from making the same mistakes we've committed or seen committed in the past.
     
  2. ColinGreene

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    iovecables, I get it you wont listen, we tried. Do what you want.
    You are probably somewhere in the 18-22 demographic that racelands targets.

    Keep in mind you are talking to someone with 4 thousand dollar shocks and probably another thousand dollars of other parts in my suspension.
    I know good from bad.
     
  3. M1N1

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    I would give up on giving advice. :deadhorse::deadhorse:
     
  4. Dave.0

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    Just talk to him if you are at the Dragon and your see.....
     
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    Ryephile New Member

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    You get what you pay for. I reviewed a set of V-Maxx years ago and even at over twice the price of the Racelands, they weren't far off being junk.
     
  6. CHKMINI

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    +1. Save your money and buy the Greene Performance coilovers from Colin. The best for the money that I've seen.
     
  7. RallyMini370

    RallyMini370 Well-Known Member

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    At the top end of the suspension market comes Reiger at $5500 a set! Ohlins is good too. I've done cheap suspension and it didn't work so well.
     
  8. Eric@Helix

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  9. Metalman

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    I did the two step approach without coilovers....
    Mine's for the street...
    Went with the Spec R Swift springs with only about 8k on the OEM dampers...and added the IE fixed camber plates... Resulting in about 1-1/2" drop... Chad at Detroit Tuned added the H-Sport control arms and a great 4 wheel alignment....
    When the OEM dampers need replacing I'll most likely go with Koni Yellow's....
    Real happy with how it handles for not much money being spent...
     
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    M7 has a new kit...lol...
    For the stance crowd...$$$
     
  11. TheModFather

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    Or try a Sprintex S/C just because one guy says its good to go...

    Oh wait... [emoji90]
     
  12. ColinGreene

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    I have experience with racelands. All the ricer kids in my town run them.
    I can say with experience they are horrible, something like sitting on a wooden chair and having someone beat the bottom of said chair with a sledge hammer.
    Koni FSD's i also have experience with and do not like at all, however
    If you want a set of lowering springs (H&R) i know someone who can set you up with those and a set of brand new FSD dampers.
     
  13. TheModFather

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    Theres your +/- $1000 death trap, now imagine what the results of $350 will look like...
     
  14. RallyMini370

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    I'd like to fit some of those racelands and see how long they last on Costa Rica roads....would be fun.
     
  15. RallyMini370

    RallyMini370 Well-Known Member

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    been there, done that Colin....not doing it again.
     
  16. TheModFather

    TheModFather Well-Known Member

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    Me too!
     
  17. MCS02

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    I have Eibach springs and Koni yellows. I really like the setup. Also I have IE camber plates and WMW adjustable control arms. I wish Koni were made in the USA but they still have a life time warranty. Koni does stand behind their product.

    Unless you are going to do lots of track days I don't believe coilovers are worth it. But thats my opinion and its worth what you have paid to get it.

    I will say that I would listen to the guys that have been posting. They know what they are talking about.
     
  18. 00Mini

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    Now that's funny !!
     
  19. colinmini

    colinmini Well-Known Member

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    From a fellow R50 owner, 2005, owned since new, 11 years and 123,000 miles on it. 52 years young! I drive the snot out of my R50, track days, autox and the Dragon(a lot!).

    My suspension history: S rear sway bar(helped dial out some understeer). TSW lowering springs(only 3/4" drop, but they had a bad batch of front springs,too high). Started to drive faster and faster. 19mm rear sway bar(helped understeer a bunch, almost neutral). More driving schools, speed really picking up. Final suspension set-up; Koni yellows adjustable, Apex lowering springs with rear Koni adjustable perches, 25mm hollow rear sway bar, I.E.fixed camber plates, lightened Mini down to 2260 lbs, 15" Holies with Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R tires (system works so well together, completely adjustable for street, autox track or Dragon!)

    I love this current set up! (I have been running it for years now too!)

    My question for you, you will be paying for the install of your suspension? This will be a major expense, do you wish to do it twice? Cost of cheap suspension and install, could be money thrown away. (Thinking that you won't be able to re-sell those coil-overs)

    Your question is not a new one either. 7-8 years ago, people were asking these same questions of how to save money by going with this or that, the quality products have stood the test of time.

    R50's rule! Enjoy the drive! (Feel free to pm me with anything specific to our Justa's)
     
  20. ColinGreene

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    The too high lowering springs were about the only bad thing about the TSW stuff back in the day.