Suspension Brakes 1st Gen Raceland coilovers for the R50

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  1. TheModFather

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    Not always! 3 1/2 years later mine is back and better than ever!
     
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    Are you talking about that rust bucket?:D
     
  3. RallyMini370

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    Just as an example of you get what your pay for....Here's the Reiger rear at $1000 each. Lucky for me the sponsor paid.

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  4. Ryephile

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    Reiger's forte' is off-road, just so everyone's on the same page.

    If you're making a road-course track car, then your aim-high brand is Penske built by an experienced race-car damper specialist like Anze.



    In any case, looks like the OP made up his mind before even asking the question. I suppose everyone has to learn the hard way.
     
  5. myles2go

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    I'm through trying. No sense beating a dead horse!
     
  6. Metalman

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    I did the two step approach without coilovers....
    Mine's for the street...
    Went with the Spec R Swift springs with only about 8k on the OEM dampers...and added the IE fixed camber plates... Resulting in about 1-1/2" drop... Chad at Detroit Tuned added the H-Sport control arms and a great 4 wheel alignment....
    When the OEM dampers need replacing I'll most likely go with Koni Yellow's....
    Real happy with how it handles for not much money being spent...
     
  7. TheModFather

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    ^^^The way a daily use street car should be!
     
  8. iovecables

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    For the record, I have not made up my mind just yet.

    I like doing a lot of research before pulling the trigger. I won't be doing any of the installation myself, I have a trusted mechanic for that.
    I may go with Koni FSD and keep the stock springs. Or perhaps Koni yellow with Swift or H&Rs. Either way it's almost $1500 after labour, and I just don't have that kind of $.

    One thing is certainly clear though - the aim of this thread was to seek out people who have first hand experience with Raceland's R50 coilovers. It seems that all posters to this thread have no experience at all with Raceland product. And that's one of the reasons why I'm willing to take one for the team - try them out, and report my findings.

    Thanks once again to Nathan for posting informative links.
     
  9. ZippyNH

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    M7 has a new kit...lol...
    For the stance crowd...$$$
     
  10. TheModFather

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    And wheel spacers...

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  11. Dave.0

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    Sorry to the OP but most people on MA already know what real coil overs cost and perform like and you wont come near quality for $369.00. Heck a good set of Swift Springs for coil over cost a little more than that.

    We all know that none of us would buy a set of coil overs for under $1700.00 just like we will not jump in a shark tank full of great whites just to get in the water for the team.

    Good luck on taking one for the team, but the team is telling you not too.
     
  12. TheModFather

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    Or try a Sprintex S/C just because one guy says its good to go...

    Oh wait...
     
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    There's a reason no one has tried them............they are cheap and cheap is not what you want holding your car to the road.
     
  14. TheModFather

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    I would like to think my safety and the safety of those around me is worth more than $350... And a replacement warranty that pretty much says they know they will fail.
     
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    Not Raceland, but I had Rokkors (same manufacturer and price) on my 90 1.8T GTI. I figured I could buy them and then sell them later for almost what I bought them for. After a couple of years I got used to them and didn't really think they were that bad. I finally installed a set of Koni yellows with Eibach springs and Ground Control sleeves. The Rokkors were literally falling apart as I removed them from the car and the new suspension setup (which was used) was dramatically better.
     
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    You don't have money to get anything better, OK, we've been there and are accepting of that. The question you have to ask is do you have money to redo it? The crowd here is trying to tell you to not throw your money away. it is usually cheaper to buy some quality components the first time. Don't throw $400 away on some cheap coil overs only to find out they are junk. That money will buy a set of swift springs for use with your struts or seed money to start saving for coil overs. None of us have a stake in the game, so we're not profiting from any decision you make, just friendly information to guide you away from making the same mistakes we've committed or seen committed in the past.
     
  17. ColinGreene

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    I have experience with racelands. All the ricer kids in my town run them.
    I can say with experience they are horrible, something like sitting on a wooden chair and having someone beat the bottom of said chair with a sledge hammer.
    Koni FSD's i also have experience with and do not like at all, however
    If you want a set of lowering springs (H&R) i know someone who can set you up with those and a set of brand new FSD dampers.
     
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    Some visuals for a setup that's similar to that - not really cheap, but clearly the scariest and worst suspension I have ever had on a car. FSDs, Alta? springs (maybe K-Sport, hard to tell with the rust), and H-sport camber plates.

    Front left - shock tower mount destroyed following endless harsh bottoming out on completely normal roads. Failed completely 2 weeks ago on a bigger bump. That torn piece used to be one solid piece of steel on the bottom of the H-sport camber plates.

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    And the right rear... the strong corrosion that had the cheap spring steel fail completely years ago, but corrosion also saved the day by fusing the spring back together.

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    First owner sold the car to me like that, probably when he realized he had to spend a ton of cash on new suspension. This suspension is brutally stiff, FSD's keep hitting bump stops on the slightest of harsh bumps in the front, so much that I frequently pulled over to check if the shock towers are still connected to the car. The rear rattled like a big tire iron bouncing around in there, even on bumps you can't even feel in a normal car. 1/4" seams of simple pavement changes would make the car rattle like it was going to fall apart.

    That's FSD and lowering springs after 35K miles - if I am lucky I can sell the FSDs for a fraction of new, but the camber plates are history, the springs are history. I would not recommend to run these shocks with springs shorter than stock, The tops of the shocks are polished bare metal from the frequent bump stop contacts.
     
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    Oh mama....:eek6:
     
  20. TheModFather

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    Theres your +/- $1000 death trap, now imagine what the results of $350 will look like...
     

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