We all see plenty is MINIs/Minis at MOTD each year that we like and dislike for whatever reason. If he wants to drag the ground with his it's no different to me then someone who has some awful looking graphic on the side of their MINI with wheels to match, but I don't go running around telling everyone what I think of it.. They may not like my car either, and you know what I don't care. I didn't do it for them.. To each their own I say.. If I don't like it I just want look at it, much!!
You guys must have such a hard time at ice cream shops :lol:. Do you get worked up when the stranger in line in front of you orders a flavor you don't like? Do you tap them on the shoulder and tell them that their favorite ice cream flavor is wrong? :lol: The best part about all of this is that I had absolutely no intention of bagging the car, haha.
I don't give a rat's @$$ about ice cream flavors. Rally - you know what got me against the whole stance/ poke / stretch scene years ago. 1 - People insisting that poke / stretch has ZERO effect on performance driving. 2 - The fact that people trash non stanced / poked stretched cars - this started back when the 'stanced' scene was in its infancy. 3 - The fact that 'stanced' crowd considered themselves auto enthusiasts and performance people - really! - What in fact they are is "show car enthusiasts". While I agree that stanced and stretched / poke tire cars have a place - it is not in the performance world.
Preface: You see the flaw in judging me and speaking poorly of my intentions for the new car that I'm excited about based on the generalization of an entire subculture, right? To your points, 1 - You'd be hard pressed to find someone who insists that poke/stretch has ZERO effect on performance. I'll sit and discuss to what EXTENT it effects performance, but I'd never say it has ZERO effect. Most of the time they'll tell you "Yeah, it effects performance, but I'm not building my car for performance." 2 - Unfortunately, there are some inconsiderate people on both sides. I don't think the 'bad apples' on either side are right for demeaning others simply because their tastes are different. Surely you've heard the saying.....two wrongs don't make a right. At StanceWorks we do our best to celebrate and condone both sides and encourage a positive relationship between enthusiasts of all sorts. 3 - You honestly think that because I like to lower my cars I'm not a real auto enthusiast? I may prefer to lower my personal cars, but I have a blast with all sorts of cars and styles....I love it all. Had you taken the time to read the article at the beginning of this thread you'd see that I traveled back to Ohio to go watch a bunch of stock-height vintage cars race around the track.....something I love doing. If you take a second to actually get to know me and my company rather than judge me right off the bat for my tire size or ride height, you'd find that I spend quite a few weekends at tracks around the country as I work with the BMW ALMS team and thoroughly enjoy watching those amazing machines perform. I love race cars, I love lowriders, I love American muscle, I love stock concours cars, I love hotrods, the list is endless. An auto enthusiast is someone that derives joy from cars. You'll have a difficult time convincing me that I don't fit that definition just because some of my personal cars happen to be lowered.
Lets me post something that has to do with the topic of this thread. Rally awesome looking Mini what year is it
It doesn't NEED any work per se, but it could definitely use a good refreshing. It's a straight body and it runs decently, but I've taken it on knowing it'll be a project. I'll be refreshing the suspension, subframes, and brakes at first to get it back in shape, and then things like interior upholstery and some minor rust spots under the car will be restored. Whether it's a 1275 or a rebuild on the 998, I'll eventually do something to quicken it a bit as well. The end goal is to restore it to a fairly clean driver level with improvements made to the performance aspects.
Hope you're still excited about the Mini, looking forward to seeing its evolution. Btw, if you took the photos for that post.
Thanks, I did take them :biggrin5: and I'm definitely still excited about it. I just took it out for its first real drive up and down the coast for a show and it ran well.
Rally - 1. I have argued the poke / stretch performance thing on Vortex numerous times, and that is where I take my statement from. Actually I had that debate at both H20 and Waterfest as well. 2. You are right there are bad apples on both sides. 3. I am impressed with your statement - I am wrong in calling you a non enthusiast - but again previous experience persuades me that you are more the exception than the norm. Good luck with the classic.