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Looks like this is freakin out a lot of people. So I don't think you all need to be worried like you are. We exclusively use EBC pads on EVERY brake job that comes in the shop unless its a track car and never had a problem with them. The only time anyone had an issue was the guy that didn't have them broke in and the bed in coating was still on them making a little noise, it went away after they finished bedding in.
Also we have sold hundreds of sets of these and only seen this when a customer took some greens to a track day.

SO DON'T FREAK OUT AND CONDEMN THEM, they are really good pads.

 

The bobcats are waaaaaaay lower dust - almost nonexistent
But the bobcats have very progressive bite
Meaning that they do not at all feel like the OEM brakes
With the OEM pads, a little bit of pedal and "OMG BRAKES!!!!!"
With the Bobcats, the brake resistance increases very linearly as you apply increasing pedal pressure, from light pressure to heavy pressure - so you can modulate the brakes more precisely, it's less "binary" - but you also will perceive it as having to "push harder" to really stop the car. In a panic stop, you always push hard anyway, and the car stops. But it takes some getting used to in around town driving.

I stopped using Bobcats and went to EBC Reds and LOVE THEM because they have more bite than the bobcats, which is what I was looking for.

Even with the warnings about the EBCs, I won't take them off yet because I haven't found another pad that has the red's combination of all ceramic low dust, quietness, and all temperature bite. If someone can find one for me, I'm all ears.

 

My EBC Red's are doing just fine....

And for you "Classic" music enjoyment.... "Freak Out" by Chic....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KUL9-eNXzQ"]Chic - le freak - 1978 - YouTube[/ame]

 

Wow again. I've heard of people getting all medieval on your ass, but he just got all Zen on yours....

 

We all drive differently. Some are harder on pads than others. If I had these issues I'd be going for a higher performance pad.

Thanks for the heads up, this is something we all should be aware of. Checking brakes is as important as checking oil me thinks.

 

No I just oil them up. Makes em last longer.

 

As someone who at one time raced I'll give my 2 cents here. On a race car we looked at our brakes before every race & once or twice while at the track. Lots of folks only look at theirs when a nanny light says to. Running hard on the dragon requires more attention be paid. Pads & fluid. If your peddle is getting long it is time for pads. Better yet change them out if there is any question they are up to snuff.

I know many who do that, but many don't. Error on the side of safety with brakes. Brakes are cheap cars & injuries are not.

Yes if driven hard the dragon can & will overheat brakes. On track you brake hard, but have straights where your brakes can cool. Not on the dragon with hard braking one turn after another for 11 miles. I'd bet many folks do not wait for their brakes to cool before doing a return run. That is a recipe for cooked brakes. For me the dragon is a momentum drive. Not a lot of hard braking. I use the transmission & engine braking a lot. If equipped with an autobox the brakes work even harder.

Back on topic, separating red stuffs.

 

Me Too!

Jason

 

Put the rally Mini through the Costa Rica tech brake test with yellows . Passed with no issues, actually the braking force was more than the machine could handle as I flew off the rollers under braking! hahaha Mini 1 brake tester 0

 

Everyone has the right to be stupid. Too many here are abusing the privilege.



--Anonymous Zenmaster

 

opcorn:opcorn: And Away We Go!opcorn:opcorn:

Jason

 

Plural. Just thought I'd point that out.

There is a certain irony that we're beating each other up with Zen quotes. Buddha would probably sit on the lot of us if he could.

 

Those who are preoccupied with proper grammar and spelling are more prone to chronic constipation and embarrassing episodes of spontaneous, explosive flatulence.

--Anunymus Zenmaster

 

I've been thinking about this & wondering....

Were the pads bedded properly?

Were the pads used beyond their design limits? If so maybe the exces heat killed them?

Were used to a point where the pads were beyond their wear limit? If the inboard pads were very thin that could be the issue?

Could EBC have a bad batch of pads out there?

Just thinking out loud here & wondering....

 

Pad choice

Love my Carbotech's! No issues since I fitted them, a bit more dust but stop on a dime!

 

Knowing how serious you are about your oil Crash, does this mean you change pads every three thousand miles? :lol::lol:

Jim

 

I've had my Red Stuff pads on since last year's MOTD...no problems so far, so they will stay on til something arises, but will keep an eye on them in the meantime.

 

Looking at those pictures closer I also wonder if the pad being so thin contributed to the pad release. Also wonder how hot the pads were.

Everyone has their own opinion on brakes. I would not run a pad that thin, especially down in God's country. Wondering how much pad was their before the start of doing runs.

Way is correct if those were carbotech's they'd have been into the rotors.

Dave no one is accusing you of not knowing how to rodeo. We all are just wondering out loud how this happened.????

 

I'm gonna make up a definition for "undslittling" now.

I know what you meant.