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  1. mini_racer

    mini_racer Well-Known Member

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    Good Luck with that.
     
  2. dannyhavok

    dannyhavok New Member

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    Well, as I've said before (and I know you weren't talking to me here.) my purpose is not to street race against R53's (or anyone.) and win, it's just to improve what I've already got in the garage. A little more pull, a little easier highway passing, etc. If I just needed speed, I'd get another motorcycle.

    (I am actually considering a trans-am/camaro/foxbody mustang for a second car to satisfy that particular urge.)


     
  3. N2MINI

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    Don't think you can sell the Remote Tune Module as it's tied to your VIN number I think.. That is to keep a group of guys from pitching in to buy one and everybody using it...
    I have a Jan tune on my R50 engine, at a Tuning Day 5 years ago here in NC... Cost was about $450. $350 for Tune, $100 for dyno time... Some people will think it's not worth the money but since I have kept it so long afterwards I think it was. Granted I'm not sure I'd pay $800-$900 for it... For just alittle more then buying the Tuning Module you could get a cam.. Make a vacation out of the trip down there, have cam installed and then tuned. Hang out in the area for a day or so just in case you have any issues before heading 22 hours home...
     
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    You can sell it, it just needs to be reset; you can work that out between you, Jan, and the purchaser. What you can't sell is the tune that Jan puts on it.

    That's a good point about the cam though--you could put the money toward that instead of the flash tool if you can get your car to Jan's neck of the woods.
     
  5. dannyhavok

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    That makes sense about the module. Can you tell me a little about your tune? Where in the rev range any power gain is, how dramatic the difference is tuned vs. untuned? General impressions, any negatives, etc? Thanks!


    Something to inquire about! However I suppose it would make sense to keep the module if I needed any changes to the tune in the future. A cam is a tempting proposition, but I have to weigh the cost and time of a trip down there, too.
     
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    If anyone is planning on contining modding their Mini, the module is a must have so Jan can update your tune as you progress with your car. 2cents
     
  7. N2MINI

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    Here is what I posted in your other thread:
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    "I do have a "Jan Tune" as it's called on my R50 engine. Granted I only picked up 7-8 HP and TQ peak, BUT there were areas within the curve that I gained 15 ft lbs. I now have a whopping 113 HP and 113 Ft Lbs... at a cost of about $450 for the tune/dyno time... Been on the car for about 5 years and 80,000 miles and still kicking.. I do have a DDM CAI, and Megan Racing cat-back.. both installed before tune.. Maybe with a good cam you could pick up another 8-10 HP MAYBE, which would put you in the 120-125 HP area.. and $800- $1000 spent range depending on cam install rate, and which cam you buy... Just not much power to be gained in the R50 engine at any price really.. So it just depends on what you want and how much money your willing to spend to get it.."

    No ill effects at all. No codes, bumps or hic-ups since day one..
    Good to hear you can sell the Tuning Module.. The advantage of having the Module would be if you took your car back to the dealer and they flashed your ECU you can "reflash" it back to your tune..
    I don't have my Dyno sheet with me currently, but I believe most of the increase was in the 3500-5500 rpm range...



    Read more: http://www.motoringalliance.com/forums/cooper/6198-anyone-build-r50-engine-yet-5.html#ixzz24Hdv5YTR
     
  8. RallyMini370

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    I'm planning on going the Jan tune route as every HP I can get is worth it. I plan to bring the R50 engine up to JCW spec as rules do not allow me to modify the engine beyond what is available from the manufacturer. My main focus will be getting the Mini down to a 2030LBS weight and adding an LSD/ 5:1 diff to get the power down.
     
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    I'm considering some 11.4lb Kosei wheels. I have 16" feathers now, but I'm leaning towards downsizing.
     
  10. Jason Montague

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    :cornut: If you haven't already done it; trash the heavy run flats.:Thumbsup:

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    Can you go down to 15's, or are 16's required? The 15's make a HUGE difference.
     
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    Oh no, those are long gone. Running Yokohama S.Drives, considering Bridgestone Potenza RE11 for next summer.
     
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    Oh yeah, the kosei are 15". :thumbup:
     
  14. dannyhavok

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    Just bumping my old thread! Anyone else out there have any experiences to share?

    I was re-reading the email exchange I had with Jan, and I had misread something, adding the cost of the custom cam with the tune and module pricing... so a remote tune is actually about $300 cheaper than I thought it would be. It's looking a lot more tempting now!

    On the other hand, I suggested a road trip down the coast to my better half, and she's pretty keen on the idea for next summer. We're going to London and Berlin in May, so it would be probably 18 months from now before I could get the time and money for the adventure.

    Tough call... instant gratification or wait awhile longer and really get it done right?
     
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    Waiting to get it done right the first time is always better. I know it's very hard to wait but the wait will be worth it.
     
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    Had my R53 remote tuned by Jan 6-8 times as mods were added. It get more accurate if you can data log while making some runs. I would email him the data log files to view and he would make the necessary changes. I would say go for it!
     
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    I'd think if your using the type of Dyno that Jan likes that the remote tune would be just as good as him sitting right there beside your car. Especially if like wzabrouski said you can data log at the same time..
    Just a matter of how many mods do you wait to get before getting it done!!! and redone as the mods pile on..
     
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    Thanks for the replies, guys!

    I should clarify that it's not just remote vs. tuned at RMW, but rather canned vs. not canned. I've been in touch with two dyno shops, one in town and one in Seattle that Jan recommended. Both of them stopped replying to my emails when I told them my car was a naturally aspirated Cooper. I'm not sure why, as my money is as green as the next guys, but maybe they just don't like platforms that won't see big power gains as it may open the door to customers with unrealistic expectations and complaints. Just speculating, of course, but regardless, the choice is between getting a cam and maybe even a head plus a tune in SoCal from Jan, or just getting a remote canned tune.
     
  20. Jason Montague

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    #32 Jason Montague, Jan 6, 2013
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    :cornut: Just my opinion from what I've heard from other 'Justa' people. A tune without other significant engine upgrades will only result in small power increases. Get the head/cam/exhaust and then a tune should help more. Then again, the amount of money that you'll spend doing this could get you, with your trade in, an R53 super or an R56 turbo. Either of these cars will have more power 'stock' than your now very expensive 'Justa.':Thumbsup:

    Jason