1st Gen R52 Cooper Convertible Roof won't fully retract

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  1. lip74

    lip74 New Member

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    Hi,I own a mini 2004 cooper convertible, just put new 2 new roof cables on,and new motor for roof,and new gates,I'm at a loss now the roof retract to sun roof position, the gates release,but the roof won't start going back,the windows drop down as normal,I've checked the boot sensor, been around and checked fuses all seem fine,please has anyone any ideas???,I can manually retract the roof when the gates release, I'm at a dead end as to what else to check,any help would be most welcome thanks
     
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    Send a private message to Blimey Cabrio, maybe he will know.
     
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    Whats his link tried the name given,and said not recognised mate thanks
     
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    Hmmm. Does the hydraulic pump make any sound at all?
    If you manually retract, will it go UP under power?
    Does the little light on the top button blink when you hold it to retract the roof?

    If it was a sensor issue, it wouldn't unlatch.
    Sounds like a hydraulic pump issue, or electrical connection / fuse for the pump.
     
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  6. lip74

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    Wheres the hydraulic pump mate and fuse/sensor, I checked every fuse I could see,thanks for the help mate,tried to get in contact with you ,but couldn't
     
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    Can't hear any noise from hydraulic pump,thing is I changed the cables etc and it worked fine,tried it several times,then next day nothing ?,disconnected battery to reset itself
     
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    Thanks,love mini cars
     
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    pump is located in the left side rear, accessed through the removable gray felt cover.
    I'd have to look up the fuses, you can do that in your manual.

    I DID have a period where my hydraulics didn't work. After sitting for a few months, it fixed itself. I have no idea why. I changed NOTHING.
     
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    Thanks for your help, really appreciated mate
     
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    Very long shot here but you said it worked and then quit? Close the top and then, cycle all windows up and down, then try to lower the top. Granted only time that worked for me was when I already had the top down and had disconnected the battery while installing some lights and couldn't get the top back up.. but easy enough to give a shot..
    Also I know you said you checked the sensor in the boot, but have you tried just putting a piece of tape on it to hold it down and try all this?
     
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    Thanks for all your help and advice, it ended up been a faulty gate sent by BMW, it works fine now ,just to let you know
     
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    Good to hear that your problem has now been corrected !!
     
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    Gate? What specifically was faulty? Really want to know.

    Glad it's working!
     
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    Hi mate,not 100%,took it to mini specialist, they changed the gate on the left,and it worked a dream,I had changed both cables at same time which I got from BMW, the motor was working, but under load was no good so got a reconditioned one for £100,its been a nightmare, going to be on BMW case Monday, have u a 2004 cabriolet? Do u have problems with your seatbelts twisting? Haven't tried yet but looks tricky to un twist, ma wife told me hers was twisted,so will have a look tomorrow, don't think the roof has done bad ,first time anything been changed since 2004
     
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    What sensors can be faulty if roof won't unlatch?
    My roof goes into sunroof mode but won't unlatch. Cables, relays, mechanism, fuses all good. If I use power from battery on motors roof unlatch and goes down/up. 2 sensors on the boot bypassed, boot closed (3 sensor pressed in). Roof module replaced. Only some hall sensors left but can't see them without stripping the roof :/
    Any ideas which sensor could be responsible for unlatching?

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    Raf
     
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    Hello :) Thanks.
    My MIINI is 2005 year.
     
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    I am no expert on convertible tops. The Bentley manual has several pages on the subject. Here a few maybe it will help. Let us know what you find. Sorry the pages did not load in order. If you do your own work I highly recommend getting a Bentley manual B48EEBEE-48A9-4C54-984C-254BF42E52C6.jpeg 2D4EDE91-409E-4F49-AB3C-0EDBE17A7CFC.jpeg 36E71D30-6BFA-4DAF-B292-236659D99ABF.jpeg
     
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