Brakes Wheels 1st Gen Tires Rotor thickness question.

Discussion in '1st Generation: 2002–06 R50, R53 & 2004–08 R52' started by goaljnky, Aug 8, 2010.

  1. Nitrominis

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    Kieth you are a pill sometimes! :D Neither mini_racer or myself said to use the style caliper for brakes in our posts. It was a joke ( a story with a humerus ending). Read my post to Jerry along with mini_racers subsequent response and then followed by Jerry's.... about I.Q. Have some humor sometimes relax.

    BTW a good mechanic can use one pictured and come up with the exact reading as the correct style for disc measurements. Oh but I am a good mechanic. LOL Think gum?


    Also refer to my post #3 about Vernier Caliper.
    http://www.tresnainstrument.com/product/vc10.html

    To Jerry:
    Yes Jerry that would be one of many.
     
  2. k-huevo

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  3. Dr Obnxs

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    I guess I'm cheap...

    I use whatever measurement tool I have around, cheap caliper, mic, small steel machinists rule, whatever. Way I figure it, if it's close then toss it anyway as it will wear during use anyway.

    But then that's the difference between physicists and engineers. Physicists want the concept right, engineers want to use lots of decimal places!

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    Make sure you have sufficient thickness to have a usable rotor thickness after turning, if its near the minimum it will not take long to be below it.... 2cents
     
  5. Nitrominis

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    Fact not opinion,

    the specifications are in the disc/rotor to show the minimum safety measurements as per the manufacture to machine them. This is not for reference indicating wear. Machining them to the minimum specification has no bearing on efficiency or increase/decrease in wear.

    This is actually a question on the ASE Certification Brake Technician test. lol
     
  6. mini_racer

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    Right, so the Min thickness spec is for the purpose of resurfacing the rotor. It is Ok to resurface the rotor down to the min thickness, but of course that will be the last resurfacing possible on that rotor.

    In my experience a rotor used for the street can get resurfaced once or maybe twice if you are lucky and still be above the Min thickness spec.

    Racers and serious track rats almost never get rotors resurfaced, they just swap them out with fresh stock.
     
  7. Alan

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    Do you think this rotor is still thick enough?

    I'm concerned cause it sure made a racket.
     

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  8. goaljnky

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    You should be able to get at least another 10-15k out of that.
     
  9. mini_racer

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    I have some fresh Jb weld that will fix you right up.
     
  10. puresilvermcs2002

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    You can get new rotors ( for a little bit more than turning your old ones).

    Zimmermman Rear $38.57
    Zimmermman Front $53.94

    So you don't have to worry about min thickness or life left in your rotor. Just my 2 cents
     
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    Hey Roberto, those are great prices on stock replacements.
     
  12. goaljnky

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    OK, so i got my handy dandy brake rotor micrometer tool. Yay me!!

    So the follow up question. I have a new rotor siting on the shelf. Its thickness is 21.84 mm. My used rotors with god knows how many miles on it at 20.8 mm. Minimum thickness is 20.4 mm.

    So I can safely say that even though the used rotors look smooth, I will lose a few if I machine them, so say down to 20.6 mm. So an educated guess says that they will get bellow minimum thickness during use. Does that mean I should not bother?
     
  13. minimark

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    I'd get new one's... 2 cents
     
  14. Metalman

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    Hmmmmm....
    Never realized disc's had such minimal wear life. 1.44mm, in merican that's .056" (less than a 1/16" of wear). So less than 1/32" per side. Almost seems like any attempt to turn down the disc's puts you in the "buy new" category.
     
  15. lotsie

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    That's MINI's take on the subject of rotor wear.

    I did go almost 90k miles on the first OEMs.

    Mark
     
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    Oh Sh!7, TSWs How did that happen?:confused5:
     
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    The days of turning rotors is gone. Buy new ones.

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  18. Nitrominis

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    Brake Rotors or brake disc's do not wear down but get wear patterns needing to be turned/machine out at every brake pad change. It is not uncommon to see very little usable specifications with some manufactures or type of rotor/disc used. If you are close enough to the minimum specification only by measuring them on a secure rotating mill or similar locking device can accurately measure to determine if cleaning by way of machining within the specification can be successful.

    All new rotors or disc should be resurfaced and clean machined prior to installing. However this practice is a dying procedure because of economics. Most are not willing to pay an additional $14-20 each to have this done on new rotors or discs? It is well worth paying the charge to have them done because of the surprising number that do not measure true coming new out of their box! You can't stop you MINI dragging your feet as Flinstones do if a brake part fails or the performance is reduced by being cheap?
     
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    A little over 2 years of one weekend a month at the track.

     

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