1st Gen R53 Cooper S Scan Gauge II help

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  1. Redbeard

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    Just checked at lunch. I have the "X-Gauge" function. Thanks for posting this. I will set it up for the drive home and let you know how it goes.
     
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    Okay I got the Boost and the A/F functions to work first try. However, the Boost function will not display unless MAP is up as well. Im not really sure why. I seems like all the posts I can find (Here, NAM, TDI, Mazda247, etc...) state that using TXD: 07DF010B will solve that. That is what I have and I have checked three times. No dice.

    I did notice on NAM there was another code: 07E0010B. I will try that. I wonder if the OBDII coding changed in the 2010 model or not. It should still be the same CAN bus as the rest of the R56s but I could be wrong.

    A/F is interesting. It's useful while on the throttle. If you get off the gas (coasting) it will show an A/F of 29.1. At the slightest input it will show more nominal readings (12-14.7 as I have observed).
     
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    I'll check mine. At the moment I have MAP and MRP being displayed. I'll see what happens if I don't display MAP.

    What's the A/F? Where are the codes to get it?
     
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    You won't have the same problem with your R53. It sounds like the "solution" was for the R53s not the R56s. You should be able to show MRP or Boost without the MAP showing.

    A/F is your Air to Fuel ratio. I think the R53 uses a narrow band sensor so you can't get this data. The R56 uses a wideband so this data is available.

    Borrowed from NAM:

    CANSF Alt A/F Bank1 Sensor1 data - TXD: 07DF0134 RXF: 04414534 RXD: 2808 MTH: 05B900800000

    Also the 'general' AF data works as well:

    CANSF Alt A/F General - TXD: 07DF0144 RXF: 04414544 RXD: 2808 MTH: 05B900800000
     
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    Quick Update post lunch: It works now. :Thumbsup: Used the second code. Now I'm displaying:

    fWT (Water temp in f) BST (Vac/Boost in PSI)

    A/F (Air/Fuel Ratio) fIA (Inlet Temp f)
     
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    Beat me to it. Yes on my R53 I can display MRP with any other gauge. Just did a little run around and I was seeing numbers ranging from -12 with engine braking, -6 at idle, and up to +16 at WOT. I did notice it's a little slow for the readings to change on the scangauge. You have to run at WOT for a good few seconds to get the reading up.

    I asked this a little earlier but no replies, has anyone tried the BHP gauge settings as shown on the scangauge website?
     
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    Yeah on the R53 the OBDII uses an older bus that updates about every 2 secs. The R56 uses a new bus that updates about once per second.

    I haven't tried the horsepower thing. I haven't heard much positive on how well it works though.
     
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    ScanGaugeII MINI Specific Beta Software Update....

    Welp.... I just bought a ScanGaugeII this past Saturday....
    I saw on the Linear Logic web site where they are doing beta testing and are looking for people interested in testing software specific to MINI Coopers.... There are certain extra parameters such as Engine Oil Temperature they have developed...

    Apparently all that's needed is to USPS freight the unit to their factory and they will reprogram the unit with a 2-3 day turn around all at "No Charge".:D
     
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    Interesting. Details when you get it. :)
     
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    Ya, I'd like to know how you come out on the updates. Maybe I'll send mine to them too...
     
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    Packed mine up at noon today, so it's on it's way to them now....
     
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    Is this specific to the 2nd gen only?
     
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    According to James from Logic (ScanGauge's parent company), the MINI specific gauges are for R56 2007+ MINI's that are running the CAN communication protocol.

    MINI specific gauges are; Oil Temp, Fuel Rail Pressure, Engine Temperature, and Air/Fuel Ratio.... The beta software will be identified as firmware version 4.09
     
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    Thanks. Went to the site and they do offer to upgrade your old scangaugeii for $25.

    Wonder what the upgrade does?
     
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    I'm less impressed. Engine temp? Wouldn't that be the same as the water temp? You can program A/F. I know I did. Unless this improves the data speed (i.e. faster readouts) then it sounds like wasted postage unless you really need oil temp or fuel rail pressure.
     
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    Yeah.... With water temp and oil temp, not sure how they develop engine temp...

    For $3.00 I'll find out...
     
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    Me thinks oil temp would be very tempting to have on a tubo'd engine.
     
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    :cornut: Me too(oil temp good to have). If they can get oil temp then they should be able to get oil pressure. The problem,I think, is that they are using the data that they already have to calculate/guesstimate the oil temp and therefore it's not a direct reading and shouldn't be relied upon. Do they return the remapped ScanGauge II with an oil temp/pressue sender? :Thumbsup:

    Jason
     
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    The scangauge uses the OBDII port.....no sending units. Gets all of it info from the ECU.
     
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    :cornut: Thanks. You just made my point.:Thumbsup:

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