2nd Gen R56 Cooper S Seafoam?

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    keldro New Member

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    The emmisions light on my wife's 2008 Clubman S came on 2 days ago. Checked the gas cap and it went off for a day and is now back on. It has 68,500 miles. We've owned it for a month. Would Seafoam be something that may help?
     
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    :cornut: Do you know/can you give us the specific engine code? That code will get you much closer to perhaps solving your riddle. You'd need to have a 'code reader'/a friend who has a code reader/or a Scan Gauge II on your car to get the code though.:Thumbsup:

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    There is a non-issue emissions inspection warning that will come up on the start-up display. It just wants to make sure you have the emissions inspection done. You can reset that yourself. That warning will pop-up on start-up of the car in that center service display and will show the outline of the entire MINI or just the back half and two esses tied together top-to-bottom like this --> §.

    If there is a light (not a pop-up on the display) either on the tach or main speedo that would be another issue.
     
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    Jason and Redbeard, just got back from the friendly AutoZone Store. They pulled 2 codes for me, P000A and P0304, which information says is a misfire detected -cylinder #4. No info for P000A. Probable causes listed by their machine are spark plug, vacuum leak injector fault or high low fuel pressure.

    Redbeard, the light icon is on the speedometer and is a diagram of an engine. As I said the manual refers to a emmisions problem or gas cap.

    Any more suggestions? Thanks so much!
     
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    #5 Jason Montague, Jan 10, 2012
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    :cornut: You mentioned that you've owned the car x 1mo. It's an 08 R55 Clubman S with 68kmi. The spark plugs in that car should have been changed at 60kmi. Were they changed? If you don't know but, you bought it from a dealer, call them, they'll know(also ask them whether the TIMING CHAIN TENSIONER OILER has had to be changed or not). If you bought it from an individual, call him, he should know. If the plugs were changed( if not then change them now-proper plug/proper gap/proper torque), then with a torque wrench, ensure that they are tight and at the correct torque(aluminum head.DON'T OVER TIGHTEN). That spec should be in our library. With the spark plugs correct and you've undone/redone the gas filler cap, get the parts house to reset the codes and see whether it happens again.:Thumbsup:

    Jason

    Addendum-P000A camshaft position slow response Bank A- ensure that your oil is full. Then if it keeps happening(code P000A) on cold starts(cold engine as opposed to cold ambient air temp), you're stuck going to the dealer(if you have warranty) or a Fully Rated MINI Repair Shop. This particular engine(R55/R56,Peugeot French Prince engine) in the time frame of 07-09 had problems with the timing chain tensioner oiler which oft times went out and had to be replaced. If still under warranty, it's free. If not under warranty, then a FULLY RATED MINI REPAIR SHOP is cheaper than a dealer. The site has a list of trustworthy shops that also sponsor our site. Find the one closest to you.

    AND GOOD LUCK!
     
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    As you mention the emissions light went out for a day, when you checked the gas cap, the electro/vacuum breather valve for the gas tank, is a valve attached and located on the inlet manifold, this can cause the symptoms you describe.

    Click on this link : RealOEM.com   BMW R55 Cooper S FUEL TANK BREATHER VALVE

    And the valve I am talking about is No1 in the image.
     
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    Keldro, I'm going to echo what Jason said. The "slow response" cam is either related to oiling issues, timing tensioner going wonky, or a bad valve-timing controller. Any one requires more than the typical shade tree mechanic to repair.
     
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    Went back to place I bought the car. They don't know when plugs were changed but are going to change them. They had to be ordered from their parts supplier and may take a few days. 9/16 12 point plugs (?). After that should I have them clear codes and see what happens?
     
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    :cornut: Yes but, as Redbeard and I have said, the timing chain tensioner oiler could also be going bad. That item is some what easy for a trained professional mechanic/tech to inspect and replace. MINI dealers do it as a matter of routine when requested and especially under the circumstances of your car. Ask them to check it. The owners manual(as I recall) will tell you which spark plugs are best.:Thumbsup:

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    Just got plugs changed and codes cleared. Drove home about 10 miles and no warnings came on. If there is something wrong other than the spark plugs (like the timing chain tensioner oiler) then the warning should come back on, right? I don't want to do any damage to the car by driving it if there is another problem.
     
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    :cornut:When my timing chain tensioner oiler wet bad,no lights came on. I, like most R56 people, heard a soft clanging noise(with bonnet up, listen at the passenger side of the engine, at the timing chain cover) during 'cold starts' that would disappear after several minutes. A cold start is the first start after sitting 8-12hrs. It has nothing to due with ambient temp.The drivers that don't take heed of this subtle symptom will have significant timing chain/gear/engine damage. If you're unsure then don't wait. Take it to the dealer to be checked. :Thumbsup: When dealing with a service rep, having ones facts straight and showing friendly insistant concern goes along way.:Thumbsup:

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