I think Vacuum is a useful thing to show on the guage. Seeing how much vacuum your car pulls on a day to day basis can help to diagnose problems later down the line. Most electronic monitoring devices don't record the full readings of vacuum like a guage does either. My access port and REV for iPhone both show a max of 10-12 inches of mercury but my pro sport boost guage reads 23 inches while off the throttle coasting and 20-22 inches while at idle. Personally this is information I like to have.
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SacredDisorder Because Race Car?Lifetime Supporter
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This is a valid question.... Just because the gauge will "see" vacuum doesn't necessarily mean you have to display that. I get where you're coming from, Kellen.
Lots of folks have no real idea what the vacuum numbers mean... Nor interest in them. But have lots of interest in accurate boost....-
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SacredDisorder is correct, vacuum gauges are helpful. You can diagnose the condition of your engine. If you know the engine pulls a specific amount of vacuum at idle and things change you know you have a problem. If the needle is bouncing around you might have a burnt valve or bad rings. Then you know you need to do a compression test. You can see how the bypass valve is working, and tell the difference when you install a Detroit Tune bypass valve. You can know to look for a leak in a vacuum line if the reading goes down from normal.
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Dave.0 Helix & RMW PoweredLifetime Supporter
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Thanks for starting Mr. Jim. If the gauge shows vac, should it be on the same scale, or do you just want to know that there is vacuum at all?
The trade-off would be the amount of sweep available for boost readings. If half of the gauge is the vacuum side of things, then it becomes tougher to distinguish between 12 and 13 psi, right? -
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Vacuum shows you when the bypass valve opens. Otherwise, not as useful as boost.
I limped my car home from the track one time with a busted crank pulley - kept the car in vacuum around 45mph and it didn't throw codes or go into limp mode. But that was not a typical situation. -
Kellen@Craven New MemberMotoring Alliance Founding Sponsor
Okay, so looking at that X-Line gauge that Dave.0 posted. It shows +/-30 with a lot more real estate being granted to the boost. Looks like about half the face. It seems that most of you feel like the vac side is important, are you happy with 1/4 of the gauge being used for accurate vac readings? Would 1/2 the gauge allow enough movement on the boost side to allow you to be able to quickly tell what the reading was?
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Mr. Jim MudsharkLifetime Supporter
I have the stock boost gauge and its half the gauge with zero at 12 o'clock. Either way the your only using 1/2 to 3/4 of both sides. You'll never hit 30" vacuum, lets hope not and never full numbered boost.
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Vacuum info is great to have but I feel it's important to show more sweep on the boost side to better see smaller increments of boost...
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Kellen@Craven New MemberMotoring Alliance Founding Sponsor
So, if it were up to you metalman, you'd have the gauge use just a little space to show vacuum on a reduced scale. Thus, leaving most of the gauge to show fine increments of boost. Still reading from 30 to 30 like that X-Line?
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I think it should show vacuum as well. I like seeing the gauge be a little more active.
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