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Or, you could NOT drive 90 in a 55.....
Some of those comments seems to indicate that people think it's OK to speed as long as you don't get caught. Interesting point of view.....
I know a lot of MINI owners/drivers don't seem to think the laws apply to them either.
I bought a classic, it's pretty hard to exceed the speed limit anywhere in it! :biggrin5:
Not that it won't do it - it will - but it's so loud and uncomfortable that lower speeds are just a whole lot more pleasant - the perfect speed control. Lol.-
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I'm trying to understand what principal it is your trying to stick to.....that civil disobedience is OK, no matter what the venue, or only that civil disobedience of speed laws is OK?
My problem with your ideal is, where does it stop? How much is OK? How far can you break the law and consider yourself as sticking to your principals?
Is 20 over OK, 30? where do you draw the line? Or is there a line to be drawn?
Do you only speed on highways, or is it OK to speed in a school zone, as I asked before? You say I took your statement to comical proportions, that's only because it is comical, that you can pick and choose when and where you break the law and it's OK to do so...and how do you know where the "bad law" lies? Have YOU done engineering studies to justify your position that the law is wrong, or are you just winging it? Because unless you have, your justification of your behavior is just as wrong as the guy's postion who imposed the speed rule, isn't it? You can't hold others to a standard that you won't uphold yourself.
And if ignoring speed limits is OK because YOU believe them to not be accurate for the road your driving, what other laws are OK to be broken too?
It's a slippery slope you're on, and your position is indefensible, IMHO.
And I also am trying to have a simple respectful discussion here, I'm not name calling or anything else....simply asking you to clarify and justify what you wrote....but I don't think you can other than to say that it's what you do and what you're going to do.......it sounds like self indulgence hiding behind a mask of principal to me.-
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Ok Minidave, Dneprdave, Dave.0…….the battle of the Daves!
I see your point Minidave but I believe you are going to the extreme. Certainly I and others would agree with you taken to the point you state. But That is not what is being said. Let me give you an example.
In my home town there is a road that is 6 lanes, 3 north 3 south. The northern end the limit is 45 the middle and majority of it is 50 the south part is 35. I live in a town thats a suburb of Memphis but we are not part of memphis we are a separate town with our own police force, several are close friends. This is the portion is 45. There is not much on this portion and the traffic is low. Most people do the limit or 5 over. Once you get in to Memphis proper the limit is 50. This is where the mall is and lots of traffic and business. Most of the time there is no way to do 50 because of the traffic. I even agree it is to fast on this portion. No one speeds here, most do about 40 ten under. On the south end is another town that is a suburb. The traffic is lighter here but the limit is 35!! why? Because they love to wright tickets! They will hit you for 5 over in the middle of the night with no one around!! This town is known for it. I went to court for a 5 over ticket. It was packet most were nailed for 5 over! I call BS on that one. Even worse there was a doctor there he was on the way to St.Jude children's hospital to do an emergency surgery, yes time was a factor. The cop not only wrote him a ticket but purposely delayed him! Give me a BRAKE!!! Cities that do this and Cops that would go along with this behavior do not deserve my respect. It is a pleasure to blow through there at a proper rate.
I would never speed in a school zone or some where where it is unsafe. But a speed trap is not honorable and I believe this is what we mean.
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Yes Crashton is correct, the track is the place for high speed driving. I also am not taking sides I'm trying to point out they are both valid points.
The limit is the law and Police have an obligation to pull over if your are speeding. It is also a good tool to catch those that are up to no good.
I guess my post sounded harsh I did mean for it to sound that way.
On the road I described the town to the north has very tough cops and everyone know not to speed there. But the limits are with in reason and the Police are fair. The town to the south the limits are way to low on all the roads and the cops are not fair, by in large, some are.
Sorry Dave.0 I was not trying to get you in to a battle. But that was very diplomatic of you have you ever thought of running for office? Pres. Dave, now that is what we need! :lol::lol:-
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All interesting points, some I agree, some not so much.
My view 5 over sometimes, 20 over not so much. In the city not at all. To many kids, pets and stupid people walking into the street on the phone, texting, eating, etc.....
If I do I pay my fine, sometimes the long lonely mountain roads get some high speed runs, but then a deer or elk will get you.
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Minidave Well-Known MemberLifetime Supporter
Not at all, I'm not perfect, nor do I claim to be....
But if you remember this thread was started by a guy who got a ticket for going 90 in a 55......justify that!
And then others came in and talked like they think that's fine as long as you don't get caught.
Then others piped up that they speed whenever and wherever they want.....as long as they pay the fines it's their problem.
Then DDave came in and said he speeds because the laws are bad.
None of those are defensible positions IMHO.
I recognize that folks do it, and my position is "cool it" on the road, and take your need to speed to the track. I also feel I work way too hard for my money to give to the police benevolent foundation.
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I think it's telling that in the video the kids cause a traffic jam just by doing the 55 limit. This was tried by the highway patrol in California when I was a kid. They had an officer with a big sign on the back of his car that said 55 and he drove 55. It caused such a big jam they stopped it after two days. It was all over the news.
So once agin lets do the limit.:cornut:-
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Minidave I see your point and I'm not advocating anarchy on the highways.
Where I live if you don't do between 65 and 70 you will get run over. Ok so fine I would just be happy if the slow traffic stayed right and people did not tailgate. Being polite at any speed is good.
Oh and by the way I have had more then one officer of the law ride my but because I was only doing 60. No lights on. I always let them by then fall behind them and run with them. I figure they know where the speed traps are. :biggrin5: I wonder why my wife doesn't like to ride with me? Yes she tells me I crazy every time I do this.
Of course I don't speed very often, I'm not like Dave.0 all cranked up on Meth! :lol::lol::lol:-
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Does anyone remember when New Rome, west of Columbus, was like this? They would give you a ticket because they could tell as you drove by at 35 that your tire was 1 lb short of properly inflated. 1 mph over 35, ticket. It was nuts.-
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Just drove though there yesterday. I'm lucky they didn't send me to Supermax.
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He mentioned how annoyed he became after hearing the inmates talk about nothing but what put them in jail in the first place. That's kinda how I began to feel and about where I quit reading. He got the point across too soon. Besides, how many times was he told. Learning curve?
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