1st Gen R50 Cooper Struts and Control Arm Bushings needed

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  1. MyklMacD

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    So took the MINI in because the car was handling poorly while cornering and at speeds above 50 would like to pull quickly or dart into the other lane when changing lanes on the highway.

    The mechanic told me that my struts were leaking and that my control arm bushings were gone and I would need new bushings and 4 new struts. A rough estimate quote for parts and labor was between $1500 and $2000.

    So my question is, Does anyone have an opinion on better replacement parts than OEM? I'm looking to keep the price down as I do not have allot of money and this is my daily driver so I will be needing a rental while the MINI is in the shop. I looked at some posts and noticed that most of the MINI owners replace their Control Arm Bushings with the Powerflex bushings from HELIX.

    Is there anything else I should ask the shop to replace while they are working on it. Can the shop purchase the Powerflex bushings for me or do I need to purchase them on my own?

    Any help is appreciated, I am a little inexperienced with this sort of stuff. :fingerscrossed:

    My MINI is a 2002 R50.
     
  2. cristo

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    Definitely go for the Powerflex bushings. You can get them pre-pressed from Way Motor Works
    (if he has them in stock) to save a little labour. Some shops will purchase them for you, and some
    won't - ask. If replacing all 4 struts, you might consider Koni Yellow or Bilstein for performance or
    Koni FSD for comfort (stock springs only with those). Might be a good time to do the front strut mounts,
    or at least check them out.
    Do you have the old style struts/springs/hardware (before 4/2002) or the later ones (4/2002 - 2006)?
    This will make a difference in what struts and strut mounts will fit. You can get a few extra parts and
    change to the later style, however, if necessary.
    Shocks, struts, and bushings should just take 1 day in the shop if they have all the parts and aren't
    booked up with other jobs.
     
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    I plan on asking the shop to order the Powerflex bushings. Can you only get them from HELIX? I believe for struts I will be going with OEM unless there is an aftermarket brand that is around the same price. Where might I find out when my car was made?
     
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    #4 M1N1, Jun 21, 2015
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    Heilx has Powerflex for $86.13 + $8.85 shipping. WayMotorWorks has them for $86.99 + $12.00 shipping. Check with their websites for options.
     
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    Bump. Hopefully bringing the car in monday. Anyone else?
     
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    If you go with powerflex (made from urethane), you will never need to deal with the problem again... If you go with OEM (vulcanized rubber), they will eventually need to be replaced again... The powerflex black is a very hard durometer for racin. The purple is a softer durometer better suited for street...
     
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    If the oem ones were just solid rubber, they'd last a while, but they're
    oil filled and when (not if, but when) the rubber shell breaks, they leak, and get floppy.
     
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    ^^^^ no they are not. You are thinking of the OEM motor mounts.

    They are rubber with 3 siotted holes around them. If you drive hard at all you will need to replace them almost every year because they flex too much and rip.

    Either way once they fail do not put another set back in or you will be buying them again soon. Wait on the install and order the Powerflex ones and do the job once the right way.
     
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    Like everyone has said Powerflex! On the struts it depends. Do plan on getting lower sport springs in the future? Do you like a firm ride? If yes to those questions then I would get Koni Yellows.
     
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    Detroit tuned will also have them.
     
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    Thank you everyone for their input. That's why I love this community.

    I will be having the shop order the Powerflex bushings for sure.

    As of now, I will be calling the shop tomorrow and asking them to order parts for the job. I need to figure out what I should be paying for 4 new struts, I want to make sure the shop is charging me correctly.

    I am trying to keep costs down so that will factor into which struts I choose. I prefer handling over comfort (I'm young). I haven't looked up how much OEM cost compared to the Koni Yellows yet.

    Anyone know about how long it should take a shop to do 4 struts and control arm bushings.

    Once again I am inexperienced in this area. How many control arm bushings are needed, I see they sell as a pair.

    Thanks again everyone:Thumbsup:
     
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    Detroit tuned has a set of Koni Sport Struts for $604 not including shipping. Do they need a different set of springs or do they use the springs on the old struts.

    After looking through Detroit tuned I see that there are front and rear control arm bushings. I assume I need two for the front and two for the rear, correct me if i'm wrong.
     
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    I got my bushings from Detroit tuned. You only need the front control arm bushings. I would get the Koni's, They work with the stock springs and will work with lower springs. They are adjustable so you can set how stiff they are, start with soft. I promise Koni soft is not soft! If you don't have much money its best to buy slowly to get the parts you want. You have to get struts so up grade now then save up and get springs. this way you will already have the struts. If you do this you are not trying to buy it all at one time.
    A good rear sway bar is one of the best handling mods you can get for the money.
     
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    What the best handling mod you can get is go to a High Performance Driving School
     
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    Awesome, Thanks MCS02. Perfect answer.

    I will be getting the Powerflex bushings and the Koni Yellow Sport struts.

    Now all I need to know is if anyone has an idea of how long (hours) it will take the shop to do the work.

    The shop owner made an estimate of $1700-$2000 total (parts and labor).

    The parts come out to around 700 not including shipping and he stated that labor would be more than parts.

    Is it really a 1000+ job?

    Any help is appreciated.

    P.S. You guys and the best and M/A IS the best and friendliest MINI site. :Thumbsup:
     
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    I can't help on that one. Sorry
     
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    That is OK, you helped enough lol.
     
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    we drop the sub frame to install the bushings and charge a flat 450 plus an alignment @125 just putting on some shock is about 3 hours so around 300 bucks. so it's right around 1000 like he said. it will be an all day job for the installer.
     
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    Thanks Detroit Tuned. You answered my last question.

    I appreciate everyone's help, I feel way more confident about my purchases and feel more knowledgeable about what exactly I need to be putting in my MINI.

    Special thanks to Detoit Tuned and their website Detroit Tuned MINI Cooper Tuning. Their website interface was easy to use and locating the parts I needed was a breeze.

    Check out Detroit Tuned if you haven't already, saved me some money. Next purchase will be a nice little Detroit Tuned decal for my side window.
     
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    Thank you for the kind words, glad we could help.

    All orders are being shipped out with small white DT logos included in the box, as well as an insulator for the beverage of your choosing. :beer

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