2nd Gen R55 Clubman Most liked posts in thread: Sudden limp mode under acceleration, but no code.

  1. Savvy

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    Auto Zone won't be able to read the codes it's throwing. Need something more specific to BMW / MINI, like a BavTech cable and software. Until you read those codes.... You'll pull your hair out.
     
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    Maybe a problem with the turbocharger recirc valve, possibly a torn rubber diaphragm?
     
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    Still sitting on the shop.

    After another smoke test, a check of the diverter solenoid and finding nothing, it is still throwing a vacuum leak code, so they are going through everything...
     
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    With 107,000 on the clock I am betting Carbon build up.
     
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    Carbon build up even if its not the cause of your problem now should be on your to do maintenance list.
     
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    At that mileage I'd bet you a dozen donuts you have carbon buildup. DI is great, until you need to shoot walnuts. If you post your location someone may be able to point you in the right direction to good MINI mechanic.
     
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    I had the carbon removed at about 108,000 on my '08. I wasn't throwing codes but it did make a huge difference in response.

    Is the turbo itself OK?
     
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    Well, with so many votes for carbon buildup and the legendary way these '08's suffer this malady, I'm inclined to believe it. I mentioned it to the service manager and he said possibly and that it DOES help performance to walnut blast it, but he's concerned that there's nothing wrong with the turbo before assuming it needs to be blasted, so they are looking at that first. it is the intermittent way it is happening that's not yet convinced him of carbon, but he says it's on the list.

    Thanks for the responses all!
     
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    Please make sure you let us know what is found so others will benefit. Good luck I hope they find the problem.
     
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    You don't walnut blast the turbocharger! You walnut blast the intake valves.

    The service manager should know that.
     
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    Well... down the rabbit hole we go! They have performed test after test and have narrowed it down to the timing being out and now are about to re-time the engine in the hopes that it's not a tensioner problem, which would be interesting because the Dealer added a revised tensioner bracket 3 months ago and the Mech in San Antonio who did the pos-purchase work (and is also Mini certified like my Mech here in Austin) replaced the valve cover and gasket and looked at it while they were in there, so I have no idea WTH.
     
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    Well perhaps when the dealer add the revised bracket he messed up the timing. But if it were timing I would think it would be a consistent problem. I hope this fixes the problem but I am not sure. I would still check for carbon in the intake. After all this you don't want some thing els popping up.
     
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    I'm leaning towards the turbo itself, but I'm waaaaaaaay over here and a total n00b when it comes to a lot of this stuff. I had to have mine replaced a couple years back. I'm at 134,000 now, so it might have been around the same time as the carbon work.

    My brain haz teh dumb when it comes to remembering time.
     
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    Yeah, I'm still going to press them a little on the carbon possibility. If it were the turbo itself, I think that was something the tech was ruling out this morning. I don't think the turbo is the culprit only because there's no intermittent thrust or lag or loss of power from the turbo when I'm on it, it is clearly a device measuring something via electric sensors making a decision and then dumping the diverter and not allowing the turbo to kick in to protect it (or so it thinks). The car actually switches to suddenly running pretty strong, but a little rough or lumpy and noisy until the error clears and then is smoother and the turbo works great again. I think that's what sent the tech down this route as he got it to recreate the condition on the lift. I was worried it had something to do with the VANOS which I'm told is ALWAYS expensive!

    The tech who is working on my car does Minis all day for this mechanic shop. it is a BMW/Mini/Land Rover specialist shop. One of the shop porters said to me that the tech working on my car does so many of them that he can do a teardown of the front of the car that is a 3 hour job in the manual in less than an hour because he does it so often. I feel like I'm in good hands on this, I just worry about the dreaded BMW cascading series of failures that always seem to happen and the Mini 2nd Gen is apparently prone to them. But I like all of the speculation here on the board because you all have more real-world experience than I do and it gives me something to discuss with the shop so I know that they are overturning every stone.
     
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    LOL, Yeah, I looked back and the way I wrote that... it looked like I was saying they'd walnut blast the turbo. No, they know better. These guys have been servicing these Minis since they have first hit the street. This mechanic shop has been open for years.
     
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    That 3 hour "service mode" tear own job only takes 1/2 an hour in a good shop like Helix or Detroit tuned.

    The dealerships still charge the 3 hours "by book rate".
     
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    Yep! Exactly. I did find it a little hard to believe it was only 1/2 an hour, so that's why I said less than... I kind of need to see the big fish before I totally believe it exists. :p
     
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    So, the latest is they think it is all good. They retimed the motor and flogged it with two different techs over 18 miles and said they got no "disturbance in the force" from it. I guess I'm the guinea pig this weekend. If my own "Car"-ma doesn't break it, then I guess its good! I'm STILL putting that carbon buildup blast out on my upcoming list though... I need new tires, brakes and rear struts first though.
     
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    Here's hoping your weekend is uneventful car wise !! :Thumbsup: