No... it's just people like me have learned it's a waste of time to try to talk politics, policy, science or anything like that here. And as a small business owner, I'm getting a massive refund. 2008 taxable income was zero. This year it's really close to zero. The crap you can do to your "obligation" when you have a business is just freakin' amazing! But it's the law of the land.... Matt