The Group4Autosport Progress Thread

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  1. track-toy

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    Good for you! Bluetooth drivers are impaired also. As a private pilot, I keep my radio transmissions short and onlly when necessary. I think that subtracting brainpower from a vehicle operator is dangerous.
     
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    My feelings exactly. I consider myself a 1% when it comes to driving, and when I did use the headset I found myself to be destructed and absolutely atrocious behind the wheel. After a couple absolutely boneheaded driving mistakes while talking to someone I said enough is enough and made the choice to not have conversations while driving. I keep the phone in my pocket so I can't even look at the caller ID when it rings.
     
  3. Dave.0

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    Ok enough phone crap. Put your phone in your glovebox or leave it at home like the old days when everyone did not have a portable cell phone. :incazzato:

    Ok back on to the real topic, any updates on G4 web site or any new parts? Wings ....?
     
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    Breasts...Thighs? Anything but gizzards will do....:devil:
     
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    CUTE :lol:
     
  6. track-toy

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    Here's a sample of our testing...

    Track Day at Beaverun June 11, 2010

    Temperature 85 degrees, sunny with some cloud cover occasionally

    Three test sessions with added rear downforce from 2nd level prototype downforce element + smaller sport mirrors

    The car was definitely faster through the medium speed sections of the track with no tendency for oversteer. Initially we were testing the splitter and, with a previously neutral-handling car, encountered oversteer (lack of corresponding rear grip).

    Now, I believe the balance of the car has been restored (the front splitter added front downforce and we needed rear corrective downforce). With the prototype rear wing the car stuck much better over the hill and down into turn 7 where previously it would be light.

    The result was more grip and the ability to get on the throttle sooner.

    No problems with the high speed section either. No perceived problems with increased drag and the car felt very stable in a 120 mph turn.

    Let me know if you have any questions.
     
  7. Justa Jim

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    As the old saying goes, "This thread is worthless without pictures" :lol: Well, not really worthless, but pictures would be nice. :Thumbsup:

    Jim
     
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    I don't have any action pics because I was alone and doing all the driving.
     
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    Come on Graham I know you could have taken one hand off the wheel while doing 130mph into a turn and take a backwards picture out of your sunroof.....:crazy::yikes:

    Just kidding man...:lol:
     
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    Spy photos............

    OK, not spy but teaser photos of the GP style wing for the R56.
    Side view:
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    Rear view:
    [​IMG]
     
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    I really, really like that. :Thumbsup:

    Jim
     
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    I wish I could say "coulda, woulda, shoulda" but I was a bit busy at the time! Things happen in a flash:yikes:
     
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    actually pictures are NOT as important as the track data:devil:
     
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    To those of us not on the track with you they are!!!! :lol:

    Jim
     
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    we hope to have plenty of data for your viewing pleasure next week..........


    and maybe...........................a few pics too:devil:
     
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    Pictures... are we still talking wings, or breasts and thighs?
     
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    #37 Dave.0, Jun 15, 2010
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    Hey Joel,

    The new R56 "GP-ish" wing looks real good. Give me a call sometime and we can talk about my R53 JCW "floppy wing" project. We talked about it at the Dragon.

    Mark should have all my contact info in the G4 book you guys had set up at the Dragon.
    I should be on the 1st page, as the 1st entry under Dave A. :smilewinkgrin:

    Just a quick refresher: We talked about chopping up my JCW wing. It is the same one Graham has on his little red toy rocket car. We talked about cutting the underside back mounts, tilting it up in the air so it does something besides look pretty. We also talked about mounting some type of "GP-ish" end pieces at the ends to stop the ends from flopping in the wind.

    Talk to you guys later keep up the great work,
    well except Wayne he does not do any work. :devil::incazzato::eek:ut::prrr:
     
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    Hey Dave, I remember all. Have been waiting on you to call. Are you going to Dayton? I am planning to go. Could do template work there, and maybe even cut and tilt your JCW. I've been busy doing some work for Larry along with the other GP wing stuff. Thanks for compliment.
    Just sent a few thing down to FL. to be tested. Items Jan has been referring to in his postings. I am anxiously waiting their results and impressions.
    Do you have my phone number?
     
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    #39 track-toy, Jun 15, 2010
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    OK, because you asked. Remember this is only a test bed to test angles of attack, grip levels and any drag issues we might encounter. Enough disclaimers.

    This is the test-bed I was using at the track, fiberglass construction...

    [​IMG]

    This is a shot after our "water tunnel" procedure. High pressure water from the front of the car with particulates to show the airflow. Notice how the airflow "sticks" to the underside creating negative air pressure below and a suction effect. Of course there is positive down pressure on top of the device also.
    [​IMG]

    We plan to combine all of the data gathered to produce a world-class product that works. Joel's GP wing, my track testing of test beds, and other inputs will bring all of this together.
     
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    Oh thats cruel...... very cruel.:cryin:

    The pic's don't work.:mad5:
     

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