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  1. fishmonger

    fishmonger Well-Known Member

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    #12 fishmonger, Jul 15, 2015
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    This post is edited due to OP calling me a Troll and mixing up all kinds of other insults between me and another responder:

    To repeat what was said by Tata Seva:

    Photography is complex art and trade. I tried to add to discussion, but I was instructed "not to be troll and start my own tread". No problem.

    Over and out!
     
  2. caseydog

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    There is a very big difference in shooting at car shows, and shooting staged shots of your car for a calendar. You can't choose when and where to shoot car show cars. If you want "car" photos without people in them, good luck. I don't even try. I just work with what I have, and try to get shots where the people are not blocking the car, or doing something stupid, like scratching their butts. A shot of, say, a father and son admiring a car can actually make a good photo.

    Biggest tip, don't shoot every car at one height. Some cars look great shot from down low, others do not. MINIs look good from a low angle, IMO. Get close, back up, shoot high and low. My camera was sitting on the ground for this shot...

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    As for "Auto setting," I use Aperture Priority Automatic mode most of the time. I like to choose my aperture and let the camera choose the shutter speed. Quite often shooting for publication, I want to have a sharp shot of the car, but want the background to be out of focus. This makes the car the star of the shot. Shooting with a long-ish lens with the Aperture set between f4 to f5.6, I can get that effect. Here is a sample.

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    For other shots, like interiors, I use a shorter lens set to f8, for ultimate sharpness throughout the image.

    Choosing your aperture is most important. As long as you shutter speed doesn't get too slow, and the subject isn't moving, the shutter speed doesn't matter.
     
  3. DneprDave

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    That's an R53!? Gosh, they all look the same to me!
     
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    ^^^ A creative eye and imagination helps, even with an iPhone...
     
  5. MCS02

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    Ok I am enjoying this thread. I really love photography. I thought this thread was here to help people that don't do photography as a hobby or a profession get good shots of their cars.
    So I really don't want to piss anyone off and sense some post were edited I am really not sure what happened. Don't care.
    But I will say good gear does not make a good photographer, never has never will.

    So how about we not scare people away with talk of gear. If you have a Hasselblad H5D-40 great, if all you have is a phone great. Go take some pictures and enjoy yourself.

    Me, yes I have a DSLR I hate it My favorite camera is my Mamiya 645 medium format film camera. Nothing beats its clarity but you have to know what your doing. To each his own.
     
  6. Nathan

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    I use a Nikon V1 with the Kit Lens...

    Help is needed to understand what the stuff means.
     
  7. B.A.D.

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    Being some one who has recently moved from using a phone to an actual camera (Samsung NX Mini), I am keeping a close eye on this thread for tips. I also welcome feedback on the pics that I post.
     
  8. Dave.0

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    Or maybe it's just what you are taking a picture of because everyone knows an R53 looks the best. :lol:
     
  9. caseydog

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    I'd like to expand on something I posted earlier --- drawing attention to your car by throwing surroundings out of focus.

    Below is a very simple shot of an AC Cobra in a park just before sunset. The car was in shade, but the trees and brush in the background were in full sun.

    The car was about 50-75 yards in front of the trees and brush, and I was about 50 yards in front of the car, shooting with a 70-200 zoom at 185mm. I had the camera in aperture priority mode, and the aperture set at f5.6.

    Now, if you don't have a long lens, don't worry. You can use a shorter lens, but you will have to place the car farther away from the background. My "personal" camera is a 500-buck Nikon with a "kit" 18-55 lens. To do this shot with that camera, I would want to get that car at least twice as far in front of the trees and brush, if possible. I'd still go with an aperture of about f5.6.

    If you can't set your aperture manually, try to "trick" the camera to open up the aperture by setting it to the lowest ISO (light sensitivity) and shoot near sunrise or sunset, like I did for this one. With a low ISO setting, and lower light, the camera should pick a pretty large aperture for you.

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    BTW, sunrise and sunset are great times to shoot many cars, especially darker, metallic colors. What happens is that the sky becomes your light source, instead of the sun itself. That's how you get those nice, soft highlights like you see on the hood of the Cobra. More on that later.

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  10. caseydog

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    Thanks MCS02, Nathan and B.A.D.

    If someone asks me how to take better pictures, I would never say, you need to buy an expensive camera, or learn advanced professional techniques. Now, if someone asks me how to become a professional photographer, that is a different story. Yeah, I'm going to press them to see if they REALLY want to be a professional photographer, or just think it might be an easy way to make money. Two vastly different scenarios.

    MCS02, I used to have a Mamiya 645 as one of my multitudes of cameras, and liked it. I still have a Hasselblad 500c. It sits on a shelf, and reminds me that today's $3,000 camera is tomorrow's $300 camera. LOL.

    Having shot professionally in 1985 and 2015, people sometimes ask me if I miss film photography. No, I don't -- not one single bit. I can get better results in a lot less time now than I ever could in the "good old days" of film. You can too.

    Okay, I am rambling, as we old folks are prone to doing.

    Bottom line -- if you want to take better pictures with what you have, you can. You don't have to spend a bunch of money on gear and software. It's like cars, you don't have to trade your stock MINI for a Porsche GT3, or graduate from the Bondurant Racing school to improve your driving.

    CD
     
  11. TG.

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    This is great! I'm looking forward to participating to this thread :Thumbsup:
     
  12. phydeaux

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    Always looking for more tips and tricks.
     
  13. Nathan

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    caseydog Well-Known Member

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    Just a repeat of tip number one -- don't wait until the last minute.

    Most calendars you see in stores are actually printed by August. I'm guessing that Nathan would love to have the 2016 calendar wrapped up in August.

    Now is the time to take your 2016 calendar photos.
     
  15. phydeaux

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    OK, let's start this off with a pretty generic question. I'm going to a car show in a couple weeks. What can I do with my consumer grade DSLR to get photos that are more than just a snapshot? Can you give, say, three tips that any Joe MINI Owner can use to get out of the snapshot rut? Let's gear this toward someone that knows enough about their camera to use more than just the Auto setting for everything. ;)
     
  16. phydeaux

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    So it might be safe to say, be aware of your surroundings, and take the blinders off? ;)

    Think outside of the box, get low, get high (yeah, yeah, WA state, insert joke here...). Remember that you can always see the same angle when you just stand there, so make it stand out somehow.

    Great advice, all of it. Hoping this sparks some thoughts or discussion.

    What about post processing? How much do you use, and what kinds of post processing do you most often go to? With that question, I'm thinking color correction, filtering, etc., not necessarily what you use to do the post processing, though that might be interesting, too.

    I suppose, along the lines of filters, how much do you use on-camera filters, like ND or polarizers?
     
  17. phydeaux

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    Came across this one today. Timely, I think, with this thread.

    iPhone Car Photos
     
  18. caseydog

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    Phydeaux, you got it. If you have a zoom lens or two, try shooting the cars multiple ways, with some close, some up high, some down low... you get it.

    And yes, learn to shoot with people at car shows. You can't realistically expect everyone to move away so you can take your pictures. Get ready to shoot, so you can jump when opportunity knocks.

    As for post processing, I don't want to go too deep in this thread (perhaps another thread later), but I run every shot I take through Photoshop.

    I shoot everything in RAW format. I also look at the histogram when I preview my shots on the back of my camera. The histogram is a graphic representation of your image's exposure (another reason I prefer digital to film). In many cases, my shadow areas will be too low, while at the same time, my highlights are a little blown out. Back in the day with film, you were screwed. But, with digital, you can bring back the shadow details AND recover highlights using Adobe Camera Raw, which is part of Photoshop and Lightroom. Digital sensors have WAY more "latitude" than film did.

    My standard process is this:

    I run every shot through Adobe Camera Raw and use the "Recovery" and "Fill Light: functions to recover my highlights and bring up my shadow details. Then I open the image in Photoshop.

    In Photoshop, I adjust my levels and color balance as needed -- if needed.

    I also use the Smart Sharpen feature. Even on a camera like mine, digital images are never quite as sharp as I would like them to be. I think most photographers would agree. So, I sharpen them by just a little.


    Search "histogram" and "Adobe Camera Raw" in Google or YouTube if you want to learn more about these two very useful tools.
     
  19. fishmonger

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    I never sharpen my images - if they are technically done right, you don't need that stuff unless you want to really pump up detail beyond real, especially for tiny screen display. For each resolution, you do need a different sharpen approach anyway, so I only sharpen for print once I know what size I'll be printing, and then only very very carefully. It's mostly a hack to salvage partially out of focus areas (I use the Nik filters for that and only with a mask where needed).
     
  20. caseydog

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    For those of you who don't have the cash to throw down on a $2,000 "hobby camera," I'll keep the focus of my posts in this thread on how YOU can get the best results from the camera that YOU have.

    If fishmonger wants to share his vast knowledge of advanced techniques for advanced photographers, he can certainly start a thread on that.

    My theory on camera gear is to use the best equipment that you can afford, and justify buying. So, let's work with what you've got -- and don't get intimidated by people who tell you what you CAN'T do with your cameras.

    CD