Second turbo replacement... What is causing the turbo's to fail, needing replacement?
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Redbeard JCW: because fast is fun!Supporting Member
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To be fair, unfortunately this car has been touched many many times by the dealership and I believe this vehicle even qualified for the Lemon law due to persistent induction issues and ECU codes.
The first turbo replacement, along with many other components at various times, were replaced by the dealership while still running the OEM tune.
That being said, I would certainly agree a tune that increases performance ('mild' and especially 'wild') will increase the stress on many components and will hasten their demise. Just look at my track tires if you don't believe me.
The main problem with this car is that it has been in the hands of the dealership too many times. I have personal experience here and have found this specific dealership to be less than competent on more than one occasion. I am confident this car would be much healthier today if it had been under K's care since day 1.-
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I doubt many R56s would have this much oil in the intercooler if they were healthy. I think its location does lend itself to oil accumulation and an internal cleaning should be a part of a maintenance routine.
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So exactly how often are you supposed to change the intercooler oil for an R56? :^)
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When I swapped out my IC to a Helix IC at around 25-30k miles I looked at the fins an thought that it probably should have been swapped out anyways because of the reduced flow from sand and stones bending the fins. The stock IC doesn't seem robust enough for a long happy life in the location it is mounted in. Just an opinion.
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A few more cracks were discovered in the header, a repair was attempted, but I didn't feel comfortable with crack remnants. The header is made of cast stainless, which is supposed to be highly heat tolerant and not crack. A new part number replaced the original and the header doesn't appear to be as flow friendly. Below is a comparison, original on bottom, new part at top.
The new part is much lighter than the original; although both stainless, the new one is just a hair less magnetic. The original had round passages with little interference between channels.
The new part is a bit rectangle, and the paired runners overlap somewhat.
The original header nuts are kind of unique, copper nut with locking stainless thread inserts, and odd shaped captured washer. The replacement nuts are all copper.
The TIS says to replace the nuts; a couple of the originals locked on their studs, so I planned to do it anyway.-
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One must question the original design given the new design is completely different.
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The line delivering oil to the turbo's bearing has an O-ring around the pipe within the banjo fitting on top of the turbo housing. If the banjo turns while applying torque to the bolt, the pipe can become cocked at an angle squeezing one side of the O-ring while opening a gap on the other. I believe when this happens oil is allowed an exit path over time, and this is the main cause of leaks at this fitting. If it's leaking already, replace the pipe and washers, tighten the banjo bolt hand tight, position the banjo in line with the tube, and to keep the banjo fitting from turning, wedge something on its side like a screwdriver blade while applying torque.
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Had this happen on mine, BMW/Mini needs to create a better sealing line, maybe 2 o-rings inside the fitting. My banjo bolt actually started leaking first, BMW repaired (under guarantee)and less than 600 miles later the line it self started leaking out of guarantee. It is not a cheap part to fix as they say you need to pull the turbo off of the car to do it.
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Today's Job #9
I'm doing a few things on an R56 specifically for autocross. The front swaybar is being swapped for a smaller diameter Cooper version. One of the bolts for the control arm bracket was damaged badly; could have been cross thread, or the subframe threads weren't cut deeply enough to begin with.
I could clean up the bolt threads with a restoration die, but my restoration tap wasn't long enough to reach the really bad section in the subframe hole.
I tried running a couple bottom threaded bolts through, but the end threads would get wiped out before penetrating deep enough. An aggressive cutting tap fixed the mess.
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The flywheel and clutch are cooked.
I don't know if the details in the photos above will show here, but there are traces of fluid radiating from the center of the flywheel, also note more wear on the outside edge of the disc. It appears transmission fluid leaking from the transmission input shaft seal contaminated the inner portion of the disc.
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Cooked is putting it mildly. Thats some artsy pattern on that flywheel!.
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I failed to mention the flywheel's secondary mass had excessive rock just like the other defective R56 flywheels I've seen. That pattern is on most of the rattling flywheels.
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It has low mileage (the ECU is removed or I would provide the exact number) and another OEM clutch & flywheel will be replacing the cooked kit.
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Redbeard JCW: because fast is fun!Supporting Member
I had my whole assembly replaced at 34k'ish miles for excessive rattle in neutral. Clutch and flywheel had no hot spots but the clutch was wearing un-evenly, TB was stiff and had heavy dust contaminations, the dual-mass flywheel had excessive movement.
It's been MUCH better (I didn't know how bad my first one was until they swapped out) since my replacement.-
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