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  1. patchelect

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    #44 patchelect, Dec 4, 2013
    Well Mr Mechanic called me a little while ago and announced that the new window motor did in fact fix the problem. I'm picking the car up tomorrow and hope everything is as he said. I'm having a tough time believing that the window motor could cause the problem, BUT given all the interconnectivity of todays automobiles I suppose it isn't too far fetched. Being from the old school of points, plugs, and distributors with vacuum advances all this new fangled technology makes my head hurt!!
     
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    #40 patchelect, Nov 23, 2013
    Thought I'd post an update on the top issue. Late this past week I took the car to the mechanic. He and I spoke last evening at length. He replaced the existing pump assembly and was happy to see the top go down without a hitch. Fortunately (for me!!) when he tried to raise the top it gave him the same thumbed nose reaction that I had gotten, no hum, no buzz, nada. He is now studying the problem, the safeties, the micro switches, the entire processor control thing. He appears to be extremely cognizant of what to study and where to go. He's also puzzling over the passenger window problem and trying to determine if the two are somehow related. The car will spend the weekend inside his shop with the top down and he will attack it again on Monday.

    I'll post as we learn more. I will say that this guy gives me confidence that when he is done the problem will be fixed, not masked.
     
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    #46 Nathan, Dec 4, 2013
    Hows that song go....

    The window bone is connected to the folding top bone...
     
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    #48 Friskie, Dec 5, 2013
    :Thumbsup: YEAH!! Motoring, topless motoring is the best.
    just for a point of reference, it's 20º out this morning and the top is DOWN.

    (It was 35º yesterday morning and the guys at coffee thought I was nuts, I called them weenies. If I run it up this morning, they'll call me a weenie, I'm sure, so...)
     
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    #18 Dave.0, Nov 8, 2013
    Good luck with your repair and hope everything works out for you in the end.

    FYI when one little thing fails in a Mini lots of other little stupid things happen.

    I think it should be called the "Ghost of Lucas"
     
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    #22 Angib, Nov 9, 2013
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    On the original subject, operation of the sliding roof and the lifting roof are completely separate, so one working without the other is entirely feasible

    I think I may have posted this here before but, just in case there is anyone not having Lucas Nightmares, this car that recently came up for sale should give them to you:

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    Article about eBay auction of Lucas Hybrid

    That would raise Joseph Lucas to the 'Prince of Zero Entropy', a state where neither light nor motion exists......
     
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    #33 Crashton, Nov 14, 2013
    I was not implying that your dealer was dishonest. Just that they may have a hard time working on a complex car they know nothing about. I agree with you, give them the chance to make this right. Did your MINI come with any warranty from the selling dealer? Make sure to document everything, just in case you need to use that info down the line. Enjoy your trip.
     
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    #9 N2MINI, Nov 1, 2013
    Have you cycled the windows up and down then tried the top up button?
     
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    #16 patchelect, Nov 5, 2013
    Hey, I never meant anything negative, just a sarcastic bit. I'm here along with everyone else to help and offer ideas.

    Honest!!!

    :Thumbsup:
     
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    #19 patchelect, Nov 8, 2013
    BMW has a tradition to uphold!! :wink:
     
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    #21 BlimeyCabrio, Nov 8, 2013
    The Prince of Darkness is best left sleeping.
     
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    #24 patchelect, Nov 9, 2013
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    I have to agree with you on that. And the thing that is bothering me is that the red light wasn't illuminating originally but started to once the top was in the sunroof position. I suspect this gremlin may hang around in honor of Mr Lucas just to make me lose the remaining strands of hair I still have!!

    Once the car is returned to the wrench and the fun begins, I'll post the progress that may or may not occur!
     
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    #27 Dave.0, Nov 14, 2013
    Question have you had a carfax run or found any history on this car?

    I hope you did not get sold a Hurricane Sandy type water logged car. Water really causes bad and odd things to happen over time as things decide to fail from corrosion.

    I really hope I am really wrong and wish you the best of luck with your repair.
     
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    #28 Crashton, Nov 14, 2013
    If your dealer can't fix it, have them send you to the MINI dealer. If I understand this correctly you did not buy from a MINI dealer. Odds are long a non-MINI dealer will figure this out.

    Good luck :fingerscrossed:
     
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    #29 patchelect, Nov 14, 2013
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    The Carfax was clean. Two owners, and the dealer actually had in his possession for a year. THAT should be something I should have given deeper thought to I guess. And being in the dealers hands for a year doesn't mean he couldn't have taken it home, but the posted mileage jives with the fax. I also used Autocheck and it was a parallel to Carfax. Two owners, one for the first 5 , the second for two, and then one on the lot.
     
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    #35 Friskie, Nov 15, 2013
    A flooded car situation was alluded to but carfax shows no immersion, but, is it possible that in a used car lot the guys not knowing any better hosed out the engine bay trying to clean things up? There are lots of sensitive electronic circuit thingies in there that don't like to be hosed. Blimey's idea on the Control Module sounds like a good place to look.
     
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    #41 Dave.0, Nov 26, 2013
    Sounds like you have someone that cares about the work they do and is very thorough with his investigation. That is rare these days.

    Good luck, hope you get some good news soon.
     
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    #49 Metalman, Dec 5, 2013
    ^^^ Made me think of this for some reason.....:eek:
    Aquavit part of the equation?
    Planes trains and automobile....

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    #50 Friskie, Dec 5, 2013
    Uhhh, I'm thinkin' maybe more like a pint of schnapps.
     
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    #52 patchelect, Dec 5, 2013
    I picked the car up about an hour ago and am glad to tell everyone that the car works perfectly and even the trunk that seemed to lock after every use is functioning as it should. Nothing makes any sense to this 64 year old mind, but it works and I shall motor on~~~~

    Road trip starting this weekend to visit my grandson for his first birthday!!! YES!! BTW, his daddy has a mini already so there's hope in the family. :biggrin5:
     
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