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  1. Dave.0

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    I hate TPMS sensors. They only came about because of Good-Years crappy tires on the Ford Explorer 2 door sport that would blow tires and flip over.

    All TPMS do is cover the tire company and car manufacturers from being liable for people not maintaining the car they own. What happen to the days when you checked you own tires, brakes and oil? Gawd have people got lazy and that’s why we have dashboards covered in idiot lights.

    OK RANT OVER. Hahahahaha
     
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    #35 cristo, Nov 2, 2018
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    Had a second shop put in 4 Huf rde048v21
    sensors and it reset quickly, correctly, and
    permanently.
    Returned the other sensors to the first
    shop and got a refund on the parts and tax.
    Glad it’s finally straight.
     
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    I recall it was all flavors of Ford Exploder's. Also worse than Goodyear it was Fireboned tyres. I'm not a fan of tire nanny's either. Although since my sweeties car has them so they have to work. Tape would work for me justa fine.
     
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    I agree with a lot of this. Waiting for the pressures to naturally drift down far enough to turn the light on is not an acceptable substitute for
    checking your tire pressure weekly or at least monthly and with changes in temperature like we always get this time of year.
    By the time the light is on, the tire(or tires) is at least 10 lb underinflated and has been for a while.
    For a lot of people, the light IS teaching them not to bother to check their tire pressure.

    The light IS helpful for more sudden drops in pressure, usually related to a puncture that can be repaired easily if you get to it promptly.
     
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    Emailed the sensor company, who then
    talked to the tire shop, who then called me.
    They say they now have the correct configuration
    data for my make/model/year/build date,
    and that their application tables weren’t
    strictly correct for my vehicle, and they
    want to try configuring the sensors again.
    Will stop by late Friday afternoon or early
    Saturday am to give them another go at it.
     
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    Wow what a cluster fark. I hope the shop refunds all your money & maybe compensates you for this TPMS hell they've put you through.
     
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    They are indeed on my list.
    I will save the sensors and return them
    to the first shop for a refund of
    applicable parts and labour.
    I’ve also sent a couple nasty-grams to
    the manufacturer for U-Pro.
     
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    That’s what I thought at first, too , until I
    realized it was displaying 3.5 at 35 psi
    at the gauge, 3.9 at 39, and 3.2 at 32.
    I think it’s a discrepancy in my scan tool’s
    labeling of the units, rather than at the
    sensor level.
    It’ll be interesting to see what happens with
    my “known to work” summer tires later this afternoon.
     
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    My first thought is you have one or more wrong sensors tuned to the wrong station of a bad sensor.

    I had a similar thing happen & it turned out to be a bad sensor. Batteries in these are not replaceable, WHY??? :Wtf:

    If it was me I'd have them replace all the sensors since they can't seem to figure this out. Otherwise you'll be chasing your tail on this. Good luck.
     
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    Took the MINI in for the FOURTH time. They were supposed to have an oem Huf or Schrader ordered at this point.
    They said they tried another sensor set (didn't recognize the brand, but it wasn't Huf or Shrader), and they said it didn't work.
    They then put in another U-Pro set and programmed it for 2008 and drove it 15-20 miles and pronounced it fixed.
    I checked a scan which said the sensor positions had not been acknowledged yet, and sure enough, in just a couple
    more miles, the light came back on. Tried resetting it and it took a couple miles for the light to go out, but it came
    back on in a few more.

    I ordered the same Huf sensors (RDE048V21) from Tire Rack that worked instantly without programming on my summer tires,
    and will get another shop to put them in the winter wheels and re-balance Friday or Saturday (they should arrive Thursday).
     
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    Hallelujah !! It’s got to be a relief to finally have everything worked out to your satisfaction.
     
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    I would think one of the new sensors are bad or they used cheep ones and your mini does not like them. It seems their sensors are causing the problem.
     
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    It’s going back to the shop tomorrow afternoon. They’ll have several hours to work on it while my
    wife and I take our two Wegie* cats in for their
    annual checkups.
    I think they’re going to try reconfiguring the
    sensors first, and then replace them if that
    doesn’t work.

    *Norwegian Forest Cats
     
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    All of this carp TPMS stability control, blind spot monitoring auto braking is dumbing down the driver. Heck they are dumb enough already no need to make them dumber. Heck I don't have to worry about anything now my car will do it. Guess I'll send a text while I drive since I'm so safe now. :rolleyes:

    This morning at the tire shop there was a long line of cars that needed their air checked. Tire nanny for the people who won't bother on their own.
     
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    Backup cameras are now required on new cars in the US. As for the nannies, I'm hoping they'll actually protect me from the dumb drivers since they probably don't drive well anyway.
     
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    #19 cristo, Oct 23, 2018
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    Well, the tire shop had the MINI all afternoon and reconfigured the sensors, drove it several miles until the light went out, and pronounced it fixed.
    I scanned it and found no data on any wheel, drove it 4 miles and got data on the wheels but no acknowlegement of the sensors, drove it 4 more miles
    and the light came back on. They tried something on it again with two different scan tools that they have and since then, no codes, faults, or lights, but still
    haven't gotten acknowledgement of the sensors. The light usually doesn't go on until that happens,
    or if it doesn't acknowledge them for a certain period of time or mileage, then an "inactive" error occurs.
    I'll have to drive it more to get to that point and see if the problem becomes apparent again, which I'm pretty sure it will.
    It really shouldn't take so many miles to reset when my summer wheels and the previous factory wheels reset in about a block or two.
    Meanwhile, they're ordering a different brand of sensor and will swap them in this weekend if they get them in by then, or the next
    Tuesday or Saturday if not.
    :mad::Arghh::Vomit:
     
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    And if you get a Tesla it will auto drive so you can sit back and ride along while the car runs over people.
     
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    Good luck, hope 3rd or 4th time is the charm.
     
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    Plus the car is perfectly drivable like this
    and there’s no real urgency to getting
    it settled correctly.
    But it is still very frustrating and I would
    prefer it fixed sooner than later.
     
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