Yes, I defended the vendor and Yes, he could have handled it better then he did. The issue of slow production had been brought up in another thread which went on for awhile. In the end everyone was happy with the product, but did not like the wait. The thread in question was trouble from the start, just from the title alone and slow prouduction was nothing new. The OP should have known that going in. The vendor did not blow off until the attack had gone on for several pages, which does not excuse it, but IMHO a moderator should have seen this coming and cut it off, as the point of slow production time had already been established. In the end there were posters writting long posts, who addmitted they had never bought from the vendor nor seen their product. Your idea of having a place here to leave pros and cons is a very good one, as long as it remains information rather then an attack. Just for general information I have had a number of dealings with the vendor which were all positive. They even took the time to answer some questions that netted them nothing. Clearly you know the posts I made in that thread and have, most likely, made you own opinion of me, but if you have no objections I'd like to hang around here for awhile. Jim
If you are asking me...I have absolutely no objections. It all could have been handled better, but I understand the OP's desire to create some drama to be seen above the din. If I was to have issue at all with that thread it is the way the vendor handled it.
Looks like the vendor stood up, guess time will tell how tall. This community is so well informed, and connected, because of this site, the "other site" and others, that you can't pull the wool over our eyes very easy. Mark
it's funny you say that because a vendor like M7 did just that, with the help of NAM and the members for quite some time. :arf:
The referenced thread was one of the drivers for me to make MA my primary forum using NAM only for reference and history. I too had problems with the specific vendor's delivery credibility which I mentioned in a couple of posts followed by way too much drama for my tastes. Glad to be here where it reminds me of the old days over there.
OK, like the old saying goes, "you can fool some of the people, some of the time, but....":ihih::lol: Mark
Just lifted this from over there; "saying that the product is faulty is debatible. It works but its too damn loud, and the fix they said would take care of the problem cost me additional and didn't work. I say us that live in california take a little drive down there and kick some ass and get our money back. It would be a cool Mini convoy and and itimidating gathering. Can you picture a whole bunch of Mini pulling up at Riss and a bunch of pissed of guys wallking towards the shop. Adam would **** his pants Vince" This takes Bashing to a new level. Mark
I agree. But I also understand the frustration that something like that would arise from. It wouldn't be inconceivable for an [internet] vendor to become lax in their customer relations knowing that they are separated from a face to face with an irate customer by a few hundred miles.
I am linked to most of the bigger Mini forums, NAM, M|U, Mini Torque, Mynes, Coopernation and here. They all have something to give. NAM has spawned off most of all the others, good or bad.
I can't help but wonder if this is another delay tactic. I've seen this dance throughout that trainwreck on the sewing site. Time will tell All I can say is I know who I never will do business with unless I have product in hand when I hand over a CC#
I'm sure this is an empty threat, but it probably turns many people off, who will hopefully migrate here Mark
What...no MININuts (NSFW) membership! :ihih: I see it as there are or were the big two. "That other site" being US based and MINI2 being UK based. From those two came a lot of spin-offs. The majority started around the same time the Big 2 were sold off to more commercial ventures. M|U being more of the design and social oriented types. Been around quite a while compared to the ones below. Mini Torque - UK based with more of an emphasis on performance. Mynes - Commercial forum for to support their own product line. Coopernation - Very social, very little in the way of performance. If I had a tech question this and then next entry would be the last places I'd look. TotalMINI - UK based spin-off of MINI2 that was formed within days of MINI2 going commercial. Very social as well but with a European view of things. Lets not forget all the regional and local clubs forums as well. Some are very active such as MetroplexMINI, some are full of the sound of chirping crickets.
We are now officially seen as a threat to "that other site". They have added a censor in place for the URL. PHP: http://www.****************.com You won't find me stooping to that level.
I got a very curt message from the power (singular) that be. I was of the understanding no links in signature. I don't think the power that be likes me:rolleyes5:rrr:. Mark
