1st Gen R53 Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: TSW mount and BSH mount

Tracy,

Sorry about the other drama in this thread. Let me try to explain below with a non bias reply to your question.

If you are not racing your Mini and you still have your stock OEM mounts your motor will move as it is designed to. Racing mounts are made stiffer so tq is not lost when the motor twist.
OEM mounts allow for a higher amount of movement and a better ride quality with less vibrations to the typical everyday driver.

The side tranny mount (drivers side) should never fail so that sould be ok for a longtime.
The bottom mount could get loose over time and need to be replaced but most do not fail.

The top motor mount ( on the passenger side ) is the problem mount, on the R53, years 2005 & 2006 the latest mount they used was fluid filled and tends to leak and fail over time.
You can replace it with another OEM mount but that will fail again overtime. The best way to tell if the mount it is bad or leaking is look at the frame rail right under the mount for fresh fluid.
You may also hear a slight clunking sound when someone revs the engine and you look at the mount. While looking at the mount with someone rev-ing the motor you may even see some fluid leak out if it has any left in it and it has failed.

Hope that helps answer your question, if I missed anything or you need more detailed help shoot me a PM and I will be glad to help you out.

 

I have the BSH "street" lower mount and a VIP upper mount (like the TSW) and a Powerflex tranny mounts and "Yes" you will get more NVH with any non-oem rubber mounts or bushings. The more you add the worse it gets. Rubber is the softest and it will absorb the most vibrations. Adding Braces and Polly-not so much...:nonod:

The stiffer the bushings around the motor the more MVH you will get.
Dont get me wrong my car does not shake like Michael J. Fox but it does vibrate a "little".

If want a nice cushy ride I take the wifes Lexus RX 350 buts its no fun on a twisty road at all.

 

Whats the big secret with your so called "modified" BSH mount? Are you drilling holes in it to add more flex?

Updated I see your mod now: "bushing on the normally solid end"

With your modified BSH mount (street or race) version you may as well just used the OEM one.

 

:eek6: now that's a scary thought :lol:

 

Oh Jiminni Crickets,

They are a site sponsor not a vendor. God your are such a ,,, never mind, whatever, your are not worth my time anymore. Maybe you should let the "Custom Mini Shop" post for themselves

Here are some cold hard facts no one can argue but I bet you will.

Mynes is not a site sponsor or vendor here either, just like your buddy.
They cannot even post because just like your bubbly they have been BANNED.

Which does say a whole lot about a "vendor?"

How many cars have YOU worked on? I have worked on many more than just my own. Right now I am thinking about putting radiators in my doors. Lol

The last sentence above was a joke, just incase you did not get it.:ihih::lol:

 

Oh Jiminni Crickets,

They are a site sponsor not a vendor. God your are such a ,,, never mind, whatever, your are not worth my time anymore. Maybe you should let the "Custom Mini Shop" post for themselves

Here are some cold hard facts no one can argue but I bet you will.

Mynes is not a site sponsor or vendor here either, just like your buddy.
They cannot even post because just like your bubbly they have been BANNED.

Which does say a whole lot about a "vendor?"

How many cars have YOU worked on? I have worked on many more than just my own. Right now I am thinking about putting radiators in my doors. Lol

The last sentence above was a joke, just incase you did not get it.:ihih::lol:

P.S. I am a LIFETIME member of M/A and I guess that makes me a little sponsor also.

You not so much.....

 

The policy of this site since day 1 has been to allow people to discuss products and services by parties that are not sponsors of Motoring Alliance for the overall good of the community. Links to these products and services are allowed.

However, it has never been allowed to shill for an entity. The number of times and methods used to push the custom BSH mount by you Jim along with the fact that elsewhere you say you work for or with Custom MINI Shop has me questioning if you are an employee of said entity that needs to have your user ID changed to reflect that you receive compensation from same.

BTW, Custom MINI Shop is not a site sponsor like Detroit Tuned, OutMotoring, Way Motor Works and others. Custom MINI Shop has a Local Shop Listing.

 

I wonder if BSH will warrenty the modified part when it breaks? I wonder if it was tested and approved to be modifided by BSH? Who would / will the owner file a law suit against if someone has and accident with a part that has been modified beyond it's intended use.

These are all things you should consider before you take someone elses product and change it and make it untested and potentionaly unsafe. Be very careful the house you could loose is your own. .... Just saying



Do you worry Jiminni I won't buy one of those pre-weakened aluminum lower engine mounts.

 

Dave O. and Jiminni I have a barn that yall go out behind and sort your differences if need be. yall sound like two littel kids. I take it yall don't really like one another huh?

 

Same here, I added the BSH lower mount and it vibrates more but I won't go back to the original. You can feel the big difference besides the vibration.

 

Call Steve at Custom Mini Shop, 559-320-0004, for his "custom" lower BSH mount. I have one and love it! No extra NVH.

 

If adding any extra NVH is a concern, just stick with the stock bushings. Refresh every 60k miles. There's a definite performance benefit to stiffer engine and transmission mounts, but you have to deal with the tradeoff.

 

Well, thats what im saying....you can have both :biggrin5:

 

I have both the TSW and BSH. While yes it does add more NVH, I would not trade them for anything. I cannot say if just doing the BSH lower adds more than just the TSW because I did both at the same time.

 

I have the tsw and bsh mount also the powerflex insert for the transmission. I will say there is a lot of nvh with this set up. I wouldn't change it though I'm used to my daily drivers ending up sounding like a race car. The mini just took longer for me to get it there. Also I have a m7 stb I highly doubt it helps dampen any of the vibration.

 

Not at all, It will add more vibration.

Its a "brace" and it makes things more rigid, its not a shock absorber.

 

Anything the keeps the engine from rocking is good. I can use the OEM upper mount system only because I use a modified lower BSH mount. Now when I say "modified", CMS sells a BSH mount that uses a bushing on the normally solid end, which is the cause of excessive NVH. Call Steve for details