1st Gen R53 Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: TSW mount and BSH mount

  1. jiminni

    jiminni Well-Known Member

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    The OEM rubber is way more mushy than what comes with the BSH and on the other end is a custom Powerflex bushing, way more stiff than any OEM, but still very little NVH :Thumbsup:
     
  2. Dave.0

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    My MINI is set up for the fun runs in the twisties and I could care less about NVH.

    If I want to drive a car and not feel it I take out the Lexus RX 350.
     
  3. jiminni

    jiminni Well-Known Member

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    Glad you like the way your car is :Thumbsup: My MINI is also set up for fun runs and twistys, and guess what......no extra NVH :Thumbsup: Now you factor in my stage 4 clutch and solid flywheel.....so much for OEM smoothness :lol: Oh and if I want ultra smoothness.....I drive my Lincoln :biggrin5: But kidding aside, if someone wants a performance oriented part that does not jar your teeth and vibrate, then this CMS/BSH mount is a good thing :cornut:
     
  4. Way Motor Works

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    I have had some customers add the Cabrio braces and said the dash rattles were alot less with them. So that may help. Otherwise yes it's going to be solid to do both.
     
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    Thanks for the input everyone. The CMS modified BSH mount sounds very promising. That will likely be the next step. Thanks Way for the recommendation on the Cabrio braces. I just ordered a set from you guys. Hopefully I'll get them by the weekend so I can put them in and let you guys know how they work!
     
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    Sadly, my smooooth ride, my ole grand marquis, is having some engine work done right now, and the
    MINI in my daily anyways. I'm very hope full of the performance of the Cabrio braces. :)
     
  7. jiminni

    jiminni Well-Known Member

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    So did Steve hook you up with the mount?
     
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    Haven't purchased the mount yet. I got the TSW mount and noticed the increased vibration even after break in. I just ordered the Cabrio braces, from Way, to see if it reduces the dash rattles and rear view mirror vibration. I believe my lower mount is worn and liked the idea of a stiffer mount, but thought that the BSH mount would increase nvh too much because of the metal on metal mount end. It sounds like Steve puts a small bushing at that mating surface. That should help reduce the added vibration. I Would be purchasing it now, but found that my passenger side ball joints were bad and causing a chatter in the steering wheel. Those joints are now top priority.
     
  9. AllPepperS

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    What is the VIP mount? Is that the English vibratechnics mount? I believe I am needing a new motor mount although I am hearing nothing and feeling nothing, I can see where there has been a leak of some sort on the rail. My car is new to me as of 5 mo. ago I bought it with 45K on it, it's an 06 MCSa. I talked to the previous dealer that serviced the car and they had no record of having done a motor mount.

    Thanks
    Tracy
     
  10. Dave.0

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    #25 Dave.0, May 12, 2012
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    The VIP mount is a dog bone style mount that has rubber bushings at each end. It goes on top of the OEM upper mount and attaches to the strut tower. It was ok but the rubber bushings would wear after a year or so.

    Here a link with a picture:
    http://www.vipcustomparts.com/engine%20parts%20page.htm

    I have since removed the VIP mount and the OEM fluid filled mount and replaced it with the UK Vibratechnics that I purchased from Colin Greene. I am also replacing my lower BSH "road" motor mount with the UK Vibratechnics lower mount. It is lighter than the OEM and BSH mounts and has rubber at each end.

    Vibratechnics also sells a trans mount (not silly polly inserts) a whole mount. All three mounts are available in two types Road and Race soft or hardness.

    Vibratechnics link for info: http://www.vibra-technics.co.uk/mini_bmw/mini_cooper_s_r53_04_06

    I have NO MVH anymore.
     
  11. Mr. Jim

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    Hey Dave,

    So you don't need the VIP with the Vibratechnics engine mount? Will it still fit?
     
  12. jiminni

    jiminni Well-Known Member

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    Being "light weight" is not nessacarily a good thing for the lower engine mount. The stock and the BSH are just fine, weight wise. I am going to post a picture tomorrow of Custom Mini Shop's, custom BSH mount, with bushings on both ends. And they are PAYING vendors here, unlike some of the vendors being discussed :idea:
     
  13. Jason Montague

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    :cornut: THREAD JACK!- So I bought my BSH stuff through DOS(both MA vendors). Would some one call my 1st 2 exwives and tell them what a loyal good guy that I am.:devil::ihih::lol::lol::lol::Thumbsup: Now back to our thread. :lol:

    Jason
     
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    Thanks Dave,
    I have been to their website. Any problems ordering? I am researching options to the stock mount. I am not feeling anything I can pin down. Very little if any vibes in the cabin. The mirror is quiet, I would like to keep it that way, but don't want to be doing this more than once. After you put too many stock mounts in you have already paid the price.
     
  15. BlimeyCabrio

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    Yep... I"ve had my VIP for a few years. Started getting more NVH a while back. Yesterday had my wife sit in the car and shift while I watch the engine. Moving a good bit with the VIP now - rubber "looks" fine, but is definitely much more compliant than when new.

    Think I'm going to have to go VT.
     
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    Maybe I should start a new thread...dunno :confused:

    How much should the motor move? when you are checking at a stand still and go through the gears like Paul did. Did that yesterday and the guys at the shop looked at it and said it looked very normal to them. I saw that it seemed to move front to back about and inch + or - and nothing at idle.

    Tracy
     
  17. Dave.0

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    Ok well RMW is a vendor here and Colin works for Jan so again your post is pointless.

    The VIP brace is not needed with the VT upper mount. The VT lower mount is lighter and stronger than the BSH and OEM in my opinion.
    Again NO MVH but what would I know I only have them installed on a fast high HP car that's 6 years old without any problems.
     
  18. Mr. Jim

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    The front bushing on mine shifted so I got a new one from VIP, all good again.
    The Vibratechnics engine mount looks the real deal though.
     
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  20. AllPepperS

    AllPepperS New Member

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    Well, I didn't mean to start anything here, I was just trying to find out some information about a seems to be common problem I may or may not have. I am new to Mini's but not new to cars and you all know more than I do about them and there is always more than one way to do things depending on what you want out of it.

    So can anybody tell me how much movement I should be seeing?

    Tracy