1st Gen R53 Cooper S TSW mount and BSH mount

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  1. AllPepperS

    AllPepperS New Member

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    Well, I didn't mean to start anything here, I was just trying to find out some information about a seems to be common problem I may or may not have. I am new to Mini's but not new to cars and you all know more than I do about them and there is always more than one way to do things depending on what you want out of it.

    So can anybody tell me how much movement I should be seeing?

    Tracy
     
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    #42 Dave.0, May 13, 2012
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    RMW may not be a vendor, but they have a lot of parts on Nathan's car don't they????

    FYI MINI USA is not a vendor either should we not buy a MINI.

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    Tracy,

    Sorry about the other drama in this thread. Let me try to explain below with a non bias reply to your question.

    If you are not racing your Mini and you still have your stock OEM mounts your motor will move as it is designed to. Racing mounts are made stiffer so tq is not lost when the motor twist.
    OEM mounts allow for a higher amount of movement and a better ride quality with less vibrations to the typical everyday driver.

    The side tranny mount (drivers side) should never fail so that sould be ok for a longtime.
    The bottom mount could get loose over time and need to be replaced but most do not fail.

    The top motor mount ( on the passenger side ) is the problem mount, on the R53, years 2005 & 2006 the latest mount they used was fluid filled and tends to leak and fail over time.
    You can replace it with another OEM mount but that will fail again overtime. The best way to tell if the mount it is bad or leaking is look at the frame rail right under the mount for fresh fluid.
    You may also hear a slight clunking sound when someone revs the engine and you look at the mount. While looking at the mount with someone rev-ing the motor you may even see some fluid leak out if it has any left in it and it has failed.

    Hope that helps answer your question, if I missed anything or you need more detailed help shoot me a PM and I will be glad to help you out.
     
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    Tracy;
    1" or less of engine rocking while changing gears in an automatic doesn't seem unusual. The stock rubber bushing do let the engine move around some so the NVH doesn't enter into the cabin. They do loosen up over time and can be removed and checked fairly easily (the rubber parts can split). Some of our vendors sell a polyurethane insert that fills in the voids of the stock upper and lower engine mounts. They are very easy to DIY and do further reduce the engine movement. But visual inspection is needed to make sure they aren't experiencing some wear.
     
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    The policy of this site since day 1 has been to allow people to discuss products and services by parties that are not sponsors of Motoring Alliance for the overall good of the community. Links to these products and services are allowed.

    However, it has never been allowed to shill for an entity. The number of times and methods used to push the custom BSH mount by you Jim along with the fact that elsewhere you say you work for or with Custom MINI Shop has me questioning if you are an employee of said entity that needs to have your user ID changed to reflect that you receive compensation from same.

    BTW, Custom MINI Shop is not a site sponsor like Detroit Tuned, OutMotoring, Way Motor Works and others. Custom MINI Shop has a Local Shop Listing.
     
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    RMW is not a Site Sponsor here.
     
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    Ok thanks Nathan, they (RMW) does have banner adds on the site right? I could have sworn I have seen them before. I could be wrong.
     
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    #48 Nathan, May 13, 2012
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    There are 2 RMW branded parts on my car. A head and header.

    Pistons, OEM Reman Crank and Mahle bearings were sourced from Jan, he was helping me on the latest rebuild by providing these parts at a discount.

    The policy of this site is not to discuss members that have been banned. All one of them.

    Mike@Mynes has not been banned. Mynes did not renew support of Motoring Alliance. I don't ban when a sponsor stops being a sponsor, just request they do not push product and change their status from Supporting Sponsor to a standard membership. I do not even require them to change their username to remove references to their company.
     
  9. Nathan

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    You are wrong.

    RMW never has been a Site Sponsor. There is the RMW logo on the Rebuilt Shirt as a thanks for the help.
     
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    Ok I am wrong. Maybe we will try and get Jan to be a sponsor then.

    Have a great day and hope you feel better.
     
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    Really Nathan? I know you talk to or at least you used to talk to Steve regularly, please give him a call, he will assure you that I don't get compensation. And I was only trying to help the OP, he was even going to call Steve to check his product. And why would you erase my post asking if they wanted me top post a pic of the BSH/CMS mount?
     
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    So back on topic, :rolleyes5:

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    As you can see this is a normal BSH lower motor mount that has been machined and has a Powerflex bushing installed on the small end. Nothing controversial, just a good part made better :Thumbsup:
     
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    #53 Dave.0, May 14, 2012
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    Oh jiminni you have made a good part weaker. When will you ever learn.
     
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    #54 jiminni, May 14, 2012
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    Have a good idea for you.......don't buy it. Appreciate your concern for my safety though.
     
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    #55 Dave.0, May 14, 2012
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    I wonder if BSH will warrenty the modified part when it breaks? I wonder if it was tested and approved to be modifided by BSH? Who would / will the owner file a law suit against if someone has and accident with a part that has been modified beyond it's intended use.

    These are all things you should consider before you take someone elses product and change it and make it untested and potentionaly unsafe. Be very careful the house you could loose is your own. .... Just saying



    Do you worry Jiminni I won't buy one of those pre-weakened aluminum lower engine mounts.
     
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    Again, thanks for your concerns.
     
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    #57 Dave.0, May 14, 2012
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    For real you should also be concerned, after all it's only 6061 cheap machine aluminum. It's not that strong to begin with.

    P.S. Jiminni tell Mike Lewis from ProTech Dave says Hi. :Thumbsup:
     
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    Again, thanks for your concerns. Yes Mike ported a couple of our intakes, nice guy
    :Thumbsup: Whats your last name, I'm sure he knows many Daves?
     
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    Crickets ! :lol:

    Really you did not see that coming.:lol::lol::lol:

    It's not a personal attack it just damn funny. You can bust my stones I wouldnt get all upset.
     
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    Like Dave mentioned, it is not needed, but yes, it would still fit. Couple of things to note though. First is for some reason using the VIP stabilizer with the VT mount adds NVH (not sure why). Second thing to note is you will need to add an extra washer to raise the VIP mounting bracket a bit because the dogbone rubs on the bit longer VT bolt.
     

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