2nd Gen R56 Cooper S Tuning

Discussion in '2nd Generation: 2007+ R55 through R61' started by MinixB, Jun 14, 2010.

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  1. cct1

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    Not for at least 2 weeks....:D
     
  2. wzabrouski

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    I am using a Innovate wide band to log a/f ratios.


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  3. Newbs49

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    The tuner got a vacation for two weeks. Oh well, back to ho hum MA.
     
  4. beaner

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    Not all tuners got the time out.
     
  5. Newbs49

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    Your right.
     
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    I preferred MA in the pre-Jan days.
     
  7. Rooster

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    Just like I preferred my Mini in the pre-Jan tuned days.
     
  8. Dr Obnxs

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    That was one thing nice about MTH

    You could upload and download files at will. And I did. But that's going back a long time..... It really is too bad that the MINI is such a small market car.

    Anyway, there are a few options and that's good. While a couple names get thrown around a lot, there are many more who do tunes for our cars. It just sucks if you're not near any of them cause then it's a hassle to do stuff.

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  9. minimark

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    Exactly why if your one that wants to or is changing and adding power mods often a flash tool and the things needed to do remote tuning is a good investment to consider. That said my tune is now almost two years old and still makes me smile every day but there has been no major changes made to the motor..

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  10. Dr Obnxs

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    I don't know why Dimsport does it the way they do it...

    but the way MTH uploaded/downloaded was just a laptop and a cable! Cables are cheap for sure. I'm guessing the Dimsport guys want to keep thier files encrypted or something hence the need for a remote tune tool.

    Whatever works is good!

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  11. minimark

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    Think today's custom tunes go far deeper and are more involved than those tunes were too. From what I understood those tunes pretty much stuck to a certain set of changes and went no further...

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    #52 k-huevo, Jun 16, 2010
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    An example of some of the things that can be recorded from the OBDII port on an R53.

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6 Column 7 Column 8 Column 9 Column 10 Column 11 Column 12 Column 13
    TimeStamp RPM Coolant Temp Inlet Air Temp Manifold Air Press Upstream Manifold Air Press Knock Window Energy Ign Angle Cyl 1 Ign Angle Cyl 2 Ign Angle Cyl 3 Ign Angle Cyl 4 Mass Airflow
    Deg C Deg C hPa hPa Crankshaft Deg Crankshaft Deg Crankshaft Deg Crankshaft Deg Kg/h
    20.64332 1545 90 37.5 1613 984.98 62976 11.63 10.88 9 13.13 113.75
    21.232335 1914 90 37.5 1694.26 981.13 62976 13.88 15 9 15.38 174.75
    21.836121 2471 90.75 37.5 1806.03 974.94 62976 15 16.13 9 16.5 225.25
    22.446113 2960 90.75 37.5 1836.32 967.87 62976 15 15 7.5 15 294
    23.053017 3474 90.75 38.25 1830.79 956.74 63232 20.25 21 11.25 21 338.5
    23.66489 3947 90.75 38.25 1895.61 947.77 63232 22.5 23.25 14.63 23.25 405.5
    24.26069 4416 90.75 40.5 1934.58 936.75 63232 22.13 22.88 16.5 22.88 473.5
    24.866612 4924 90.75 43.5 1993.28 920.08 63232 24 24.75 19.5 24.75 547.25
    25.478596 5432 90.75 43.5 2065.1 905.73 63232 24.75 25.88 21.38 25.88 626.75
    26.113585 5945 90.75 49.5 2023.13 889.76 63232 25.88 27 19.5 27 666.75
    26.714387 6430 90.75 49.5 2023.35 873.5 63488 27 24 18.38 27.75 683.5
    27.332232 6950 90.75 57 2051 853.43 63488 27.75 25.88 21.38 28.5 689.25
     
  13. Newbs49

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    WOW
    need to make that spreadsheet smaller. I don't have a wide screen. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    You can narrow down the parimeters you are monitoring for more accurate monitoring. The more parimeters you are monitoring the less accurate. Between 7-10 seems to be the best.


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  15. CarlB

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    Thank you K-huevo - You make my point. We have real data, and can use it to tune. Before ECUs we had to read sparkplugs and other things. today we should be able to custom tune from a distance. The one thing that we do not have on MINIs is a wide band O2 sensor. Adding that and the information from the other sensors should give the tuner what he needs.
     
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    HMMMmmm...... one day, I will get TUNED. Still learning ..

    Just me...............................

    Thumper
     
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    I was curious about the possibility of a remote tune. Detroit Tuned recently brought over the Mynes for a tune party but I could not afford it at the time. I am glad a remote tune is possible, since the next tune party is likely a couple years away.
     
  18. minimark

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    You will need to purchase equipment to do it. Contact the tuners that offer remote tuning capabilities and they will be able to give you the details and pricing.

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  19. Dr Obnxs

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    Wasn't always so...

    the main guy at MTH was going to change my ECU to run the system with a wide band, but by the time I had my stuff together, they'd grown and gotten too busy to do stuff like that (hired someone who was very good at saying "no"). That also spelled the end of tuning based on data logs too. But really, the tuning scene was (is?) much more advanced over in Europe. And really, some of the stuff has been very good there for a very long time.

    but yes, the tuners now have more experience on which to base thier tuning decisions.

    Matt
     
  20. Way Motor Works

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    Because people would copy their software if it just ran straight from the computer. Trust me both the Dimsport units I bought have been expensive enough, it would have saved me alot. Also with the R56 requiring more computing power it would take up alot on a laptop.
     

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