Pre Migration Most liked posts in thread: Updates to Member Policy 3/10/2011

Seems pretty simple

This is a private enterprise run by Nate

Nate has set out some groundrules

Nate being human has the right run his site has he sees fit based on his interpretation of those rules

You don't like it member or sponsor alike you have choices. Stay or leave

Lets get on with it

 

Opinion and Options are something that we all have and I left NAM when they started there moderation campaign and lack of support. From the first few days and then when I could not access MA on a weekend Nathan has been great about getting the sight up and running. We have a site where we can discuss and yes sometimes cuss when we don't agree however we do have the option to walk away rather then try to :deadhorse:

 

Ah yes, the smell of napalm in the morning. :frown2:

Jim

 

So Nathan are you saying that "Butt dynos" are now accepted? As a "butt dyno" is actually the same as an opinion. So is the thread that Mike started coming back?

 

Ok, that thread is gone, ok, but......are "butt dynos" going to be valid opinions here or not? I'm just repeating what you said in your first post here. "The site's ownership and administration will not support, nor decide which ideas and opinions are right, or wrong." I was told last week unless numbers can be shown, opinions dont count, is that the case? And of course, "it caused at a lot of inflammatory posts by others", that's what, "their own agenda", is :frown5: Nathan I am not being jerk here, I am trying to get a level playing field for all vendors and members here, that's all

 

I get pretty decent access to the behind the scenes stuff and have daily discussions with Nate about the site. I have not seen any complaints from vendors on the topic, nor was there a request from any of them for an advocate to take up the cause on their part. What agenda are we trying to forward now?

 

I say somone contact his boss and tell him he's apparently not busy enough at work

 

:lol::lol::lol:

Jim

 

No vendors? Really? I'm no vendors advocate. I'm an American doing what we do best, having an open discussion. Oh Mr PGT, I have the day off today :cornut: I'm over at Custom Mini Shop helping Steve replace a clutch, so not on the clock :lol:

 

No, you are and I quote once again:

"..trying to get a level playing field for all vendors and members here, that's all "

And the fact remains that we have not had a complaint from either group, vendor or member, for an advocate to take up the cause. While as an American you have every right to place your soap box in the middle of the town square and try to start a revolution, this is not America. This is Motoring Alliance, a private forum.

 

Wow.....ok so maybe I am advocating for vendors, you have a problem with that? Anywho....good day mang.

 

Of course I don't have a problem with it. Just pointing out that opinion is not the same as an agenda. It is up to you to decide if the effort to advocate for a nonexistent problem is worthwhile and it is up to me to enforce the site's guidelines. Thankfully, up till now my responsibility has not taken up too much time.

 

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Sorry mate ( as they say) I know that this site is NOT for the freedom to express, IF you are not on board with the 'major few'. There should be NO need to have a dyno number for any mod.. NO NEED!! It was the first and best 'instigator' that started that, and yet never did produce any of his own numbers. It be came a way to shut down anyone who was trying to get a point across!!

It would seem to me that Nate/ members realize that a dyno cost a few bucks... and to run a dyno when there is a mode made is totally STUPIDly expensive. I wont do the 'talking in circles' (so the meaning has to be decided or determined from my meaning..')

I dont have the money to test and then dyno... My heads are dyno'd by a lot of customers.. ( and myself) I dont feel that my dynos should mean as much as a customer..

ANY ONE should be able to be excited about something he has done and not be chastised by it because he didnt run out and get a dyno!! WTF.. how many dynos do YOU have NATE/ members?? The SOP is a good expression, and is accepted everywhere ...UNLESS there are people trying to discredit. First it was on NAM, and now it is HERE!!

Because I am active on the forms.. and a lot of vendors are not.. It seems to be a good game to hammer my stuff!! LOL.. even though it has been PROVEN to do exactly what I say it does.. here in the USA/ the UK/ Germany/ Greece/ France and other places.. oh yes, even it redneck city of Orange Park. There IS a point when the average guy doesnt need to KEEP seeing a different dyno that shows the same results.. If a customer has any questions.. PM or Email. But by the time the 'Agenda' is fulfilled, most dont even care what the results are....it is just a ***** session. ( the word ***** session is a 'dog fight")

As for treating all of us the same.. no benefits for paying advertiser?? No benefits for the 'sponsors'.. they why ?? To post on a site that has 3500 people that are after each other?? to make sales to the public.. how is that happening, when IF there is a post it is destroyed!! Duh...

Nate.. people here on the site say your moderating is a good thing.. ?? As long as the 'few' know that you are in their corner.. they are like children, and will keep up their rederick, cause they know you have their backs!!

I was moderated in a thread.. that was owned by a vendor that said nothing.. and YOU decided to step in!! Cool... and pull the thread.. you were premature in doing so!!
As it was said.. this isn't the USA it is a Forum MA. Just think about that a minute.....

Mike

 

Oh... and I hear you said I was promoting Lynn as a tuner... WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU GET THAT!!?? I was so excited on what could be done with the FA, I was jumping that some one helped me get a base (experimental TUNE). And where I come from.. it is good to show who helped. Again.. this isnt the USA it is MA!!

Mike

 

So much crying over such a little change... how silly. actually seems to make the site a even more friendly place for mini enthusiasts than it already was.
Thumper, or Mike. Its the members prerogative on dynoing the car
get used to the performance car scene where when determining a vehicles performance a dyno is a key measuring device commonly used. I know you don't use it and thats fine. just stop being so surprised when people ask you for one.
I feel like i have diverted this thread enough so if you want to continue on this topic Feel free to PM me.

 

PM sent..