1st Gen R50 Cooper Most liked posts in thread: Urgent help needed!

  1. RallyMini370

    RallyMini370 Well-Known Member

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    I did a test last night. Same as before. The engine runs fine although a little rich with the Tmap plug off, also I tried the plug on the new Tmap with the old Tmap in place. The engine runs really rough and very rich but no misfire. The Tmap somehow sends some message to the ECU sensing the misfire.

    I even tried plugging in the other 02 sensor but not fitted to see what happens. Same issue.

    I can do the reset tonight.

    At this point I've thrown enough money at this problem to buy another used Mini R50!
     
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    RallyMini370 Well-Known Member

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    ah yes, the experience is..........buy a Subaru rally car next time LOL

    Anyway I thought maybe the crappy fuel gummed up the cylinders. Does Seafoam work?

    Sea Foam Sales Company
     
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    Summary of this thread: "I know enough to be dangerous", from all parties involved.
     
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    The point of this thread is get advice and help others who might encounter this problem.

    I've posted all the things I've done, good or bad . Electronics are not my thing so maybe that's the issue but swapping parts/sensors has not resulted in a solution. Even the dealer could not figure it out hooked up to their BMW computer for 2 weeks.
     
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    Maybe you should contact the company that makes the "ultimate driving machine" to see if their super mechanical sleuths can find the problem, since, in reality, the MINI IS one of their "ultimate driving machines", too.:ihih:
     
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    I'm doing that right now. There is an Ex BMW dude here who works for himself fixing BMW's I emailed me to tell me he has this issue with BMW's all the time. Some hope there I think.
     
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    Here's the latest:the BMW tech says it is the knock sensor picking up a vibration, maybe but I tried running the engine with the knock sensor plug off. Same issue
     
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    Thanks chaps! I did post the problem on Mini Torque and some guy suggests the ECU is now getting enough volts, so I'll be checking that.
     
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    So I sit here thinking what else can I do? I did the compression check again, after several cranking I get around 210 psi on all cylinders. So I did a crank over by hand which might now prove much. Anyway I got 28Psi on #1 and about 15psi on #2,3,4
     
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    #319 interzonearts, Dec 6, 2015
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    Apparently the data from the tmap allow the ecm to calculate the timing. It behaves more conservatively without it.

    So another possibility: something else is giving false reading to the ecm and causes the ignition to be to advanced for the actual conditions?





    totally wild guess: the crank position sensor moved.

    or maybe the knock sensor is faulty and doesn't repot the knocks?
     
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    :fingerscrossed:
     
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    yes I thought that, time to revisit the fuel filter.
     
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    Keep all the work well documented (pictures). If it does turn out to be caused by the bad fuel you may have another shot at the people who sold it to you.
     
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    Well I think the Might of Total would squash any of my attempts to make a claim.

    No rain last night and I felt frisky! So I pulled out the injectors, inspected/cleaned them. Nothing strange. The I took off both sets of valve rockers to see if the cam is worn, all looked good. So I a valve tap test with the pistons half way down the block. The idea was to gently tap the top of the valve to see if some have more resistance then others to try to see if I have sticking valves. Not the best test but something is something. Actually some valves had a ping and others a thud so maybe the thud is a tighter valve than the ping???

    I put everything back together and tried the mystery 2500-3550rpm. Misfire still there! Oh hum

    I suppose to be 100% sure I have to pull the head at some point. The head is from a 25,000 miles Cooper S so should be in good order. I did rebuild the head in 2012 so it has about 4000 miles but most of that is at high RPM.

    Anyway the head will have to wait until next year. One good thing is the engine runs the smoothest at idle then it did before.
     
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    The way this is going you are gonna have a completely rebuilt car and hopefully it will run like one.
     
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    RallyMini370 Well-Known Member

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    Yes it's looking that way! This Mini is cruel, last night I thought I'd cracked the problem and then "bang" the problem is back.

    I do a lot of searches on this issue and some dude down under had a similar problem with his Nissan 300ZX twin Turbo. OMG he had 6 cylinders worth of parts, he went though more then me to find the issue, which was a faulty new 02 sensor!
     
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    No belt could mean slightly lighter load??
     
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    False alarm. I thought the melted power cut off switch was the problem Nope!
     
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    GAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! :mad2:

    There, Chris, I said it for you! Now sit down and guzzle some cervezas frias!
    Tomorrow is another day....
     
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    Wow !! Wouldn't that be amazing if changing the battery fixes the problem ??