1st Gen R53 Cooper S Most liked posts in thread: Water temp sending unit install

  1. Mr. Jim

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    #25 Mr. Jim, Mar 17, 2011
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    Update: Ordered the part from JCSspeed.com, been 10 days, 6 emails, PayPal dispute started and FB posts on their page...........nuthing :mad5:

    and they are located in PA. Avoid them like the plague! Customer service non-exsistant.

    The part was 25, the CS hot-link was 60, did I really save anything?

    Update to update: Got a link from MM on adapter and already have it on the way to me. Thanks Chuck!

    Pictures to follow soon......I hope
     
  2. Mr. Jim

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    Yes I was and used the sensor as the bleed screw.
     
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    Mr Jim

    Thanks for the response. I will try it tomorrow.

    John
     
  4. Nitrominis

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    I use Auto Meter gauges also. I ran one of my senders in the rear block plug that way I can see the water temperature next to the cylinders were it counts.


    you let others drive your MINI?

    Can you say vale setting? :smile5:
     
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    The current sender should either be down near the thermostat or on the head somewhere, the autometer sender should go in the same place. I think Cravenspeed sells an adaptor to allow both senders in the same place
     
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    I think the Cravenspeed adapter you are referring to is for oil pressure. Adapters allowing the use of 2 or more temperature senders really does not work well. The end needs to be in the fluid measured for a more accurate readings.

    Replacing the stock location temperature switch switch is not advisable. I believe the ECU get and uses information from it.
     
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    The Cravenspeed adapter replaces a joint in the radiator hose.

    Nitrosminis, exactly where is the rear block plug that you used, did you drill and tap a freeze plug, or was it a threaded plug? I like the idea of getting it near the cylinders too.

    Dave
     
  8. Nathan

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    I used one of these form Advanced Autosports. I forget if it was the 5/8" or 1-1/8" version.

    [​IMG]

    Craven only lists the part for the 2nd gen cars. I'm sure Kellen will see this and chime in.
     
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    Nice piece Nathan. The only thing to consider is that type usually does not get to the hottest water in the block for best water temperature monitoring?

    The little known Block drain plug is under the freeze plug on the back of the block. I tried to take a picture of my sender but it is to obstructed for a good picture. I have some pictures I requested from Thumper on a block he has in his shop coming to post later.
     
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    #8 Thumper460, Mar 1, 2011
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    Nitrominis is right.. the best place is the water jacket between the cylinders. the Plug is on the back of the block , drivers side....

    ( lOL private joke here...lol)

    Just me..................

    Thumper

    engineblock2.jpg
     
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    I don't agree.....won't the water temp be the highest in the cyl head?

    Don't you want to read it at it highest temp point, not the lowest?
     
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    Minidave unless you are welling to drill and tap another area in the head this is the best already available area. If it were not for that the head on many engines would be the best place. In the case of this location pictured I have read both areas head and block and the temperatures on at least the 1st Gen MCS are the same.
     
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    Nope, but I had to say something :crazy:
     
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    Is that plug threaded?
     
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    Nathan,

    Did you put this in place of the factory "T" with the bleeder on top hose?
     
  16. Nathan

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    Yes, it replaced the vent section.

    While it may not be the absolute best place to read the water temp from there are factors such as ease of install that came into play here. Also one does not normally stare at the water temp gauge and is looking for movement, not absolute temp. In this location between the pump and the radiator inlet one does get a fairly good idea of the high temp readings. While not absolutely the perfect location it does avoid the need to tap into the head or block. There is a lot to be said for that.
     
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    This is why I got the Scangauge......no need to worry about sending units.......lol
     
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    #16 Kellen@Craven, Mar 2, 2011
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    See below
     
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    The radiator lists it's top connection as 1.25". Guess I'll be doing some measuring tonight. Thanks for the input everyone :Thumbsup:
     
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    #18 k-huevo, Mar 2, 2011
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    The ID of the hose is 1.22 and the OD of the OEM coupler neck is 1.277.

    A thin film of water soluble personal lubricant on the 1.5 coupler's leading edge would ease the fit.