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Redbeard JCW: because fast is fun!Supporting Member
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Jason Montague New MemberLifetime Supporter
(thank you very much for protecting me from myself again. The Alzheimers you know:lol
Jason
De Oppresso Libre (Class 3-73) -
My bad, my statement was a bit unbalanced. I come from a military family so it's not about having or not having love for my country. Stereo types exist for a reason, that doesn't mean one should be so full of pride they cannot step out of their own skin and see when they are acting a fool. We americans fulfill many of our stereo types like it or not. This Ford thing just makes it worse for those of us who like to travel outside our country.
Just like Ferrari or Italians or Brits etc, they have stereo types, and often just make you say, SEE!
So, that's why it makes me upset that Ford decided to do what they were doing. It just perpetuates it. For all the wrong reasons. It doesn't mean I don't understand why they think they are ok to do it. I just wholly disagree.
Again, sorry for the unbalanced comment. It's why I don't post so much anymore. I just prefer conversation in person. Less seems to get lost in translation. That and being in a rather intense program at school.
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See the thing is, we as Americans CANNOT be ashamed of what we have done for the rest of the world
I think Ford had every right to do what they did. Ferrari is the most arrogant bunch of car makers out there
And you are correct about how they lie and cheat, here is a article about it.
Ferrari accused of doctoring test cars
Toby Hagon
February 16, 2011
UK motoring writer accuses Ferrari of modifying cars loaned to the media so they're faster than those sold to enthusiasts.
A respected British motoring writer has unleashed a barrage on Ferrari, implying it doctors road test vehicles loaned to the media and wants to control what is written about its cars.
Writing on popular international automotive website Jalopnik, Chris Harris - a former road tester for UK car magazine Autocar and now freelancing - accuses Ferrari of specially preparing vehicles for the media and ensuring they are faster than those sold to the public.
Such claims are not new among motoring writers; it's common for car makers to send cars down the production line tagged as media vehicles - ensuring bolts are properly tightened and extra attention is paid to quality - while vehicles are regularly checked and re-checked before being handed out for road test, particularly with larger, more influential publications.
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However, Harris suggests Ferrari - one of the most aspirational brands in the world - has modified cars to ensure they perform better than those sold to enthusiasts.
He references a test in which he claims a 360 Modena from a decade ago was "two seconds faster to 100mph [161km/h] than the customer car we also tested".
Then there are the stories of Ferrari turning up to major magazine tests with two cars, "one for straight line work, the other for handling excercises", implying the two cars have been tweaked for the specific disciplines.
It goes on to say:
But while acknowledging the power of the Ferrari brand he says: "I couldn't care if I never drive a new Ferrari again, if it means I never have to deal with the insane communication machine and continue lying about the lengths to which Ferrari will bend any rule to get what it wants."
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I'm with Ford on this one. Give your car the same name as the best selling vehicle in America (year after year for the past 30 years)? WTF was Ferrari thinking?
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Anyway Ford and Ferrari settled, with Ferrari agreeing to drop the F and name the car "Ferrari 150".
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Back in the 80's, Harley Davidson tried to patent the "sound" of a V Twin engine.
They were trying to stop the influx of Japanese "Cruiser style" motorcycles.
The money they spent on lawyers could have been spent on Quality Control.
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