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TARP was the largest 'socialist' action since the New Deal. Who created it? Republicans. 'nuff said.

 

TARP was passed. Health Care Reform has not yet been signed into law. So, my statement stands as accurate and yours does not. rrr:

 

Very well could be that that was Warhol's intent. Who am I to argue with what is generally accepted by art analysts and critics. Lord knows that group is infallible and does not like to be questioned.

But how certain are you that the Obama group was aware of Warhal's intent?

 

that's irrelevant to this thread or my comment. Your comment was still inaccurate.

 

Warhol has openly expressed his intent in various interviews and discussions. There's no doubt that critics are fallible, but I'd trust the artist to know his own intent.

I can't say for sure, but Warhol's intent has been the same throughout most of his work and his work is pretty easily identifiable (the mao pieces included). It wouldn't take much to notice it.

How certain are you that the Obama was even aware of the Mao presence? My guess is that some white house interior decorator or lowly intern just threw most of those ornaments up and then they take a few cute pictures of the couple in front of the tree for media purposes. It's not like Obama was sitting there pasting on the mao pictures himself.

 

Given that all art is open to interpetation by the viewer, no matter the intent of the artist, would not a Socialist view this ornament and what it might represent much differently than a Capitalist?

 

Of course it's open to interpretation. What isn't? It's pretty clear that the interpretation is even varied among Capitalist MINI owners who frequent MA.

That's sorta my whole point? Why does it matter that it's on the tree when it's so open to interpretation? Some can interpret it as super offensive, some can interpret it with Warhol's intent in mind. It's just a silly ornament made by school children... why read ANYTHING into it? It's hardly something to get worked up about.

 

The issue isn't with the art itself or the intent of the art but the poor taste (at best) of having an ornament depicting one of the greatest Communist leaders of all time adorning a Christmas Tree in the White House where the leader of the United States resides at tax payer's expense. The United States being a country that has represented and fought for Freedom and Democracy for more than two hundred years now...

Is it a big deal? Maybe not, but it does demonstrate little concern for the fact that we have been a Democracy and thousands of Americans have fought and died to protect it from the likes of Chairman Mao......

PS: I'll also add that if Chairman Mao was the leader of this country, we would not be able to have this debate in an open forum.

 

Again, it's only in "poor taste" if you interpret it as such. If one interprets it as satire (as the original image's intent would suggest,) it's far less inappropriate.

If you interpret it as was mentioned in the original art synopsis I quoted, the image would be CELEBRATING the things Americans have fought to protect/achieve.

 

Then maybe that disclaimer should have been printed on the ball....:lol:

 

Whaa? Obama didn't decorate the tree himself? How very un-Christian of him. Maybe there is credence to all those Muslim rumors. :ihih:

 

He doesn't man the checkpoints himself either.

 

Hmmm. Certainly signed by GWB (disappointing). But, as I recall, some other party actually controlled the house and senate at the time....

 

right. who led the charge? The House and the Senate? No. Treasury (meaning the Executive branch)

 

The real Inconvienent Truth?

During the last two years of the Bush presidency, everything coming out of both houses including the budgets were approved by a Congress and Senate controlled by the Democrats.....:shocked:

 

As I said... Bush's fiscal behavior was a major disappointment, at least for me (and minimark).

But the Executive branch can do very little without congressional support... and the Democrats were more than willing to support Bush, "the socialist", when he started behaving that way.

Record Shows Obama Was on Board With TARP in September, and Every Bit As Socialist As He Claims Bush Was | NewsBusters.org

 

just funny when you guys call Obama a socialist when your man was one as well, factually speaking. pot, meet kettle.

 

We haven't said we liked Bush or the job he did, just that we don't need to get down off the Jacka$$ and walk around and stick our heads up it's behind.. We do know this country wasn't built on Socialism, nor is it the answer for a better future for all of us.

We need term limits and a whole new crop of REPRESENTATIVES with our interest at heart. I'm for voting every incumbent out which ever side they say they are on... We are in this mess because of them and now they want to fix the mess they created, by us giving them more power.... Ridiculous.