Harder braking. There's a maximum velocity for every corner, and the goal is to hit that speed on each corner. Sometimes you won't have enough engine to make it up to that speed, and sometimes you'll need to brake long and hard to get down to that speed, but the ideal lap will keep your minimum speed as high as possible.
There isn't much shifting on an autox course, but on the track, think about downshifting during the last 1/3 of your braking zone so the engine's ready to accelerate out of the turn. Make sure the brakes are doing all the braking, not the engine, and wait until you've slowed the car and the engine down enough to raise the revs in a lower gear and not hit redline. Especially with a peaky four cylinder engine, focus on keeping the revs up all the way around the course.
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rigidjunkie New Member
I will argue the alternative to BT23, but would like to point out both arguements are valid. When I was starting out I tried and tried to get my braking points as late as possible to hold momentum (I was in a Cooper.) What I learned is it is more important to have a high exit speed rather than a high entrance speed. I always focus on getting as much power to the ground as possible and many times it is faster to enter a turn slower so you do not push and then miss the apex.
Another thing to play with when AutoX'ing is the force of your brakes. Smooth inputs give smooth results, but some times it is easier to get the car to rotate a little if you are harsh with your brakes. The Mini is very open to brake oversteer so if you come in hot and brake just as the car is turning you can get the rear to come around which can help get around some tight corners. This is something that is very helpful to learn at AutoX because in an emergency you are likely to encounter brake oversteer and it is really helpfull to know how to react when it happens. -
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Those ideas are going to be considered in the next race , thanks. One more piece of info to consider. I recently put in a 19mm rear sway bar. It is currently in the softest position. Should I adjust one side up a notch, both sides up a notch?? Pete -
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Both, doing one side at a time will make handling for left & right turns different.
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GreyLens New MemberLifetime Supporter
I've been doing autox and some track time for a year. You're getting some good perspective above. This is fun stuff.
Here's a thread where a few of us have been discussing autox driving techniques and modification ideas for the STX class, if you're interested.
http://www.motoringalliance.com/forums/autox/4091-scca-stx-class-build-experience.html -
one thing I found from autocrossing mine is that you have to go slow to go fast. setting peak speed hold on my Garmin, the times I hit 40mph on one course were longer ET than if I only peaked at 36-37mph. Consistency and maintaining momentum are key.
Also...there are different lines to take on a course....momentum line or a power line. Here's an example from some of the guys in the local group I autocrossed with....Noble M400 (V6TT and RWD) and six different drivers with six different lines.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9vCaAR2u1w]YouTube - Virtual Race CDC Autocross July 5-6 2008[/ame] -
and, here's my car being driven by a buddy who's more experienced than me. He owns a supercharged Miata and a bunch of turbo Subaru's (i.e. nothing FWD). His first time around the course in the video was 1-2 seconds quicker than my best time that day. He was not overdriving the car....this was on Falken RT615s, thus the noisy tires
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvSy_DUCffs]YouTube - CDC Frederick 7/6 MINI Cooper S[/ame] -
rigidjunkie New Member
That is another misconception squealing tires are not always overworked tires. Most tires squeal before they lose traction.
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BThayer23 Well-Known Member
That said, the difference between hole 1 and "hole 1.5" is so small you probably won't feel anything, so move both up at the same time (or move one side from 1 to 3). -
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Interesting, my thought was that the preload on the bar would be different on each side causing a difference. Never too old to learn.
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BThayer23 Well-Known Member
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Crashton Club Coordinator
That is OK. Sharing knowledge is a good thing. :sleep:
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ScottinBend Space CowboySupporting Member