I' m new in Mini world , and i try to find best solution for MINI R50 hillclimb preparation . I read that MIDLAND 5 Gear are not the best and some of drivers have changed MIDLAND gearbox to GETRAG . 1/ GETRAG 5 gear are more robust with the same ratio of gear. same weight 2/ GETRAG 6 gear are more robust with short ratio of gear .but more heavy (but +32 lbs) 3/ I dont know if it is possible to use GETRAG 5 with short ratio ??? For GETRAG 6 , do we need to change transmissions ? Thank you in advance for your feed back .
I am not a lot of help with this one but I found two articles that may be of help. This one is outlining haw to do a GETRAG swap https://www.motoringalliance.com/articles/fixing-the-weak-link-getrag-6-speed-swap-for-mini-cooper.56/ This one has some of the gear ratios https://www.motoringalliance.com/articles/1st-gen-gear-ratios-manual-transmission.76/ Hope this helps a little.
Also you may like this thread, Colin list what he has don to his R50. https://www.motoringalliance.com/threads/still-love-this-r50-mini-after-15-years.31272/#post-420415
I have a 2005 with the 5speed Getrag, it’s very robust......but it now has a new problem: getting axles! These axles are different from the Midlands and the CVT and the S’s 6 speed! And now there are no new oem MINI R50 Getrag axles, only rebuilt ones or new after market ones(these have had mixed reviews!) After 166,000 miles, I am considering swapping to a 6 speed......but as mentioned above, it requires a number of additional parts, clutch, axles, gear lever/changer, and more. This 6 speed option does allow the ability to install a limited slip differential too! Kinda helpful, but with our stock power, not nearly as helpful as with an S!
Salut, Merci COLINMINI pour votre retour, cela confirme que j'irai à GETRAG 6 et comme je l'ai vu après juin 2004 modèle pour utiliser le dernier rapport amélioré. Hello, Thank you COLINMINI for your return, this confirms that I will go to GETRAG 6 and as I saw it after June 2004 template to use the latest improved report.
Salut, très intéressant !!! Merci MCS02 . Beaucoup de pages à lire, mais comme j'ai vu beaucoup de détails et d'informations spécifiques, est-ce exactement que je recherche mon projet. Hi, very interesting !!! Thank you MCS02. Lots of pages to read, but since I saw a lot of specific details and information, is that exactly what I'm looking for?
I put a 6-speed and Quaife LSD in my 2003 R50 about 7 years ago when my Midlands gave up the ghost. Lost the car 2 years ago to an accident but i loved it while I had it. Both the Getrag 5-speed and the Getrag 6-speed require the same plethora of other required additional parts to do the swap, so the cost difference is just the difference between the two transmissions, and although th 5-speed is perfectly adequate for the R50 (unlike the Midlands), the 6-speed is much more robustly built. I used the Valeo clutch and flywheel kit which is a good bit less expensive than the oem dual mass flywheel and clutch, and a pound or twolighter as well. The 6-speed flywheel is about 50% heavier than the 5-speed, but that does make it super easy to launch. I would get the later 6-speed (2004-5) as it has quicker gears ratios compared to the older ones and that works better with the lower powered R50.
Sorry about you loosing your R50. Most R50 owners regret not still having their’s. How did the Quaife work out for you? I have determined that with the 126 hp, it wouldn’t be that beneficial...for example on the Dragon, I only think it would help on 4 corners of the 318. (On those corners I need to modulate the throttle to keep inside wheel from spinning). But would be very interested to hear your take? When I performance drive my R50 on the autox, track or Dragon, I treat the throttle as a light switch: either full throttle or completely off, no modulation! Lol. I have almost finished restoring dad’s old race car(1974 Datsun 240Z full road race car with 300 hp and less than 2000 pounds!) this should be an interesting adjustment for me. We will see if I can really drive or not! Lol
You need to start a thread with some pictures or post them in our picture thread. I love those old Z cars!
Here is your solution to better than OEM axles. Built right with the highest quality, perfect fit and cheaper than a pair OEM axles. Here is a link to the post on M/A 6 years ago, so the parts last. https://www.motoringalliance.com/threads/rmw-custom-driveshafts-group-buy.21845/#ixzz337nTYTXd The Driveshaft shop axles are not worth the money and all the rebuilt ones use ver cheap parts that fail. Lots of people with R50’s and other MINIs like “S” , JCW’s, GP’s and high HP modded cars run them including me. Factory replacement axles that handle more power than the stock. Great for your track day Mini or daily driver. http://store-revolutionmini-com.3dcartstores.com/RMW-500whp-axles_p_75.html
Dave, I get what you are saying, but not sure this shop makes R50 axles. At least I don’t see anything for R50, let alone R50 Getrag, I wish they did, I would buy them in a second!
Contact JAN on his page. He has parts that are not listed on the website. I am sure he could have them made for you.
Thanks for the tip. I’ve chatted with Jan a few times. Sadly, R50’s are not that popular performance cars.
What did you end up doing to get the clutch wires? I got a engine wire harness from a manual and computer but what about the under dash wiring?
I have a 2004 mini base car with a cvt that went out that we got a donor cars midland 5 with engine harness and computer out of same year. Just unsure of getting it to start will it function with just new used engine harness and computer and how would I wire in the wires that go to clutch pedal so car only starts when pedal on pressed?
@Tony Albers That is hard to say. The ECU and BCM talk to each other so I believe you would have to get the ECU flashed with you vin. I am not sure where you are but you could check with Chad at Detroit tuned. He really knows Minis and is very helpful. You can just give them a call. The link below is where you can give some money for his time. This is what I do, I was a mechanic for a while and it’s just a nice gesture. https://www.detroittuned.com/phone-tech-support/ I will dig around some and see if I can find anything. Let us know what you find, it will help some other mini owner.